I totally understand Matt. I do however, have a chrysalis I found in the dirt under a birch tree. I think it got knocked off the tree somehow. I don't know how it got there, if it's alive or what. I did find some huge grubs while digging the plot of new garden, living under the moss. I don't think they're army worms and I'm not sure if this chrysalis is what they are. Susan -----Original Message----- From: gsas-member-bounces@thekrib.com [mailto:gsas-member-bounces@thekrib.com] On Behalf Of matt kaufman Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 11:35 AM To: gsas-member@thekrib.com Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] Butterflies... local creatures to raise Please, leave the amphibians alone. Don't raise butterflies. Let them do what they're designed to do. You're not doing them any good by collecting them from their fragile habitates. Provide more terrain (native plants, and removal of exotic introduced species), and you'll do better for them than bringing them indoors to gawk at. Sorry, just got back from Florida. What an eco-disaster that state is. Matt _________________________________________________________________ Windows LiveT: Life without walls. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_032009 _______________________________________________ GSAS-Member mailing list GSAS-Member@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member _______________________________________________ GSAS-Member mailing list GSAS-Member@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member