I think you pretty much have to entice them out with food. Keep them a little hungry and they will eventually learn to come out to greet you in hopes of feeding. Steev P.S. Clown loaches especially. --- On Sun, 9/6/09, Shango Los <shango@shangolos.com> wrote: _______________________________________________ GSAS-Member mailing list GSAS-Member@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member