I've asked Dr. Ruhland if he could bring in his brichardis. Hopefully he will come in with them tonight. His website with phone number is www.drruhland.com . He lives in Seattle on Beacon Hill and has them in the clinic and is available during the weekdays. Sorry to all interested if they are not there tonight. I tried calling and he's not there right now. Susan _______________________________________________ GSAS-Member mailing list GSAS-Member@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member