Re: [GSAS-Member] stingrays

["Jeff" <jeff@gotperk.com>]

Wow, thanks Cory; That's interesting about the live foods; I've got a friend
whom had a motoro for a couple of years but it was in way too small of a
tank (100 gallons) and eventually passed away; I've been going out for bids
on a new setup 84x48x24 acrylic with corner overflows which I will build
into my office wall; The bids have been all over the place though, 2,860
from acrylic world, to 3,650 from acrylic aquariums.com; I scour craigs list
on a consistent basis but that wide of a tank is unheard of unless its from
a store display or another stingray keeper; Thanks for the info, Jeff.


 
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Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] stingrays


Getting the rays off live food is the hardest part. It's a dance with the
devil, you have to starve them, but not too long, but if you give in too
soon they'll never convert off live black worms etc.

The ones at king's discus in the international district are usually already
eating frozen market shrimp. So that's a plus. 

In my opinion, it's best to get them from a store that enjoys keeping the
stingray, as other stores that can order "tea cup stingray" usually are just
temporary holding facilities. No feeding training goes into them. they hope
to sell them fast, due to their inexperience, it can be fatal if they arn't.
Even if I was to order some in for Conway Tropical Fish. I'd be bringing in
the tea cup stingrays. We would end up doing the same, feeding them live
black worms, until the customer bought it. 

Don't be fooled. Tea cup stingrays are just pups. They're Reticulated
stingray. Usually about 2 months old. Doesn't take them long at all to reach
that 4 inch size. They still grow to a 2 foot disc size.

Also they need room to roam around on the bottom. And need room to stretch
out. If their disc can't lay flat for long periods of time, they die due to
disc curl. If you plan on keeping stingray long term, You'll want to
consider going bare bottom, or a soft sand. With minimal decorations. You'll
often see stingray tanks this way. It's because if they have a 2 foot disc,
you'll need 3+ foot width on your tank if you want any decor + them being
able to stretch out.

They're said to be sensitive to water quality, however I feel that they just
need adequate filtration to handle the type of food you're feeding. Ie
market shrimp in the tank, leads to a lot of waste. Water changes should be
maintained. On a whole, you're just taking on a fish that will require
consistent care.

I myself wanted some stingray for quite a while, until I got to see some in
a couple different friend's tanks. Once they lost the "ooh you have
stingray" factor, they weren't nearly as entertaining. 

> From: Seattle_Aquarist@comcast.net
> To: gsas-member@thekrib.com
> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:22:18 -0800
> Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] stingrays
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> Hi Jeff,
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> I think that Jimmy, who gave the shrimp talk last night, has freshwater
> stingrays.  I saw a few of them at his shop.
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> Roy
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