Re: [GSAS-Member] stingrays

["Jeff" <jeff@gotperk.com>]

Wow you got a great deal on that tank; 54" wide is amazing; That's good news
about Michael with Aquarist World; I've dealt with him on several occasions
in the past back at King Discus and he was great to deal with; I'll swing by
his store this weekend and check out that tank if he still has it; I'd
prefer a 48" but 36" might work as well depending on what species of ray I
end up with; there is a guy on Aquabid that has two black Leopoldis up for
auction at $500 no reserve but when I emailed him he sent back pics which
were great but he wants $ 2,000; Has anyone ever flown fish back within the
US borders ie California to WA? I've got a ton of miles and can fly
basically for free within the US; Thanks for the link to monsterfish those
prices are great; glass tanks though, I prefer acrylic since its basically
just me (wife is too small to be much help in moving large tanks); Thanks
for your help, Jeff.



 

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From: gsas-member-bounces@thekrib.com
[mailto:gsas-member-bounces@thekrib.com] On Behalf Of Cory McElroy
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 11:02 AM
To: gsas-member@thekrib.com
Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] stingrays


Are you set on the 48 inch depth? I know aquarist world, has or had a
9'x36x24 that was in pretty good shape, with corner overflows, that is in
his back room. Your best bet is to keep touch with other people who are into
big fish. They usually keep an eye on bigger tanks lol. I picked up my 305
gallon that is 72x54x18 from craigslist/a guy i knew who kept stringray. It
only set me back 700. I had to do a repair on one seam. On craigslist
though, I have seen a 600g that would have worked for you, and then there
was that guy who had the shark tank also. He only wanted 2.5k for that
setup. 

I'd check out www.Monsterfishkeepers.com. You can gather a lot of info about
tank manufacturers. Check out this thread. This company has good reviews
from lots of the members there, and prices are nice. You'd have to work out
your own delivery/pickup. I always tell myself I'm gonna drive down to buy a
tank from him when I'm ready for another new big one. But his prices can't
be beat, and I know a lot of the monster fish keepers use his tanks.

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=272348&highlight=w
ide+tanks



> From: jeff@gotperk.com
> To: gsas-member@thekrib.com
> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:55:54 -0800
> Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] stingrays
> 
> Wow, thanks Cory; That's interesting about the live foods; I've got a
friend
> whom had a motoro for a couple of years but it was in way too small of a
> tank (100 gallons) and eventually passed away; I've been going out for
bids
> on a new setup 84x48x24 acrylic with corner overflows which I will build
> into my office wall; The bids have been all over the place though, 2,860
> from acrylic world, to 3,650 from acrylic aquariums.com; I scour craigs
list
> on a consistent basis but that wide of a tank is unheard of unless its
from
> a store display or another stingray keeper; Thanks for the info, Jeff.
> 
> 
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gsas-member-bounces@thekrib.com
> [mailto:gsas-member-bounces@thekrib.com] On Behalf Of Cory McElroy
> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 12:51 AM
> To: gsas-member@thekrib.com
> Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] stingrays
> 
> 
> Getting the rays off live food is the hardest part. It's a dance with the
> devil, you have to starve them, but not too long, but if you give in too
> soon they'll never convert off live black worms etc.
> 
> The ones at king's discus in the international district are usually
already
> eating frozen market shrimp. So that's a plus. 
> 
> In my opinion, it's best to get them from a store that enjoys keeping the
> stingray, as other stores that can order "tea cup stingray" usually are
just
> temporary holding facilities. No feeding training goes into them. they
hope
> to sell them fast, due to their inexperience, it can be fatal if they
arn't.
> Even if I was to order some in for Conway Tropical Fish. I'd be bringing
in
> the tea cup stingrays. We would end up doing the same, feeding them live
> black worms, until the customer bought it. 
> 
> Don't be fooled. Tea cup stingrays are just pups. They're Reticulated
> stingray. Usually about 2 months old. Doesn't take them long at all to
reach
> that 4 inch size. They still grow to a 2 foot disc size.
> 
> Also they need room to roam around on the bottom. And need room to stretch
> out. If their disc can't lay flat for long periods of time, they die due
to
> disc curl. If you plan on keeping stingray long term, You'll want to
> consider going bare bottom, or a soft sand. With minimal decorations.
You'll
> often see stingray tanks this way. It's because if they have a 2 foot
disc,
> you'll need 3+ foot width on your tank if you want any decor + them being
> able to stretch out.
> 
> They're said to be sensitive to water quality, however I feel that they
just
> need adequate filtration to handle the type of food you're feeding. Ie
> market shrimp in the tank, leads to a lot of waste. Water changes should
be
> maintained. On a whole, you're just taking on a fish that will require
> consistent care.
> 
> I myself wanted some stingray for quite a while, until I got to see some
in
> a couple different friend's tanks. Once they lost the "ooh you have
> stingray" factor, they weren't nearly as entertaining. 
> 
> > From: Seattle_Aquarist@comcast.net
> > To: gsas-member@thekrib.com
> > Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:22:18 -0800
> > Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] stingrays
> > 
> > Hi Jeff,
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > I think that Jimmy, who gave the shrimp talk last night, has freshwater
> > stingrays.  I saw a few of them at his shop.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Roy
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
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