Thanks Roy, I've got the wet/dry running right now to skim off the floaters and get some circulation going; the water actually isn't too bad; I overlaid the turface with sand; its running at about 340 gph; Next I'll hook up two Marineland c360 canister filters that I had on my 135g; these are packed with great bacteria and will help jump start the cycle; the wet dry overflow is kind of noisy though so I might plug the overflow and go get a c530 or fx5; After I get the c360s hooked up then I get to play with my new co2 system! I've got the tank, controller, everything; I am going to use it to keep my water nice and soft for my future rays and also to get these plants flourishing; I've got tons of room now so I'll bring some cash to the next meeting for some plants! I'd love to have a portion of the bottom covered in dwarf grass to create high plains look; Well all for now, back to "work" I go! _______________________________________________ GSAS-Member mailing list GSAS-Member@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member