In response to some not-so-subtle statements: I didn't intend to get up on a soapbox. If it sounded like that's what I was doing, I apologize. I *was* presenting some valid opinions. If anyone is that hung up over different opinions, and is unable to see the validity of other ideas, then all I have to say is I'm sorry. James wrote: <<<We cannot _assume_ that our financial worries will be over should the AGA endorse this project. We should concentrate on ensuring that we set this up in such a way that any potenital costs will be covered - either through our own pockets as the organizers or thru the setting of modest entrance fees. As I have said, I'd love to see us be able to do this without such fees due to the fact that _any_ fees might discourage at least _some_ people from entering.>>> Like I said earlier, I don't know what financial state the AGA is in, so maybe my idea isn't as feasible as I may have thought. What about selling the CDROMs for $10 a pop? or even $5? That won't give us cash up front, but if we are able to use the AGA treasury, I'm sure it would fill the coffers back up after the contest! Heck, if we manage to pull the contest off without fees, this contest could make quite a bit of money! How about making a glossy "program" and selling 'em for $20 each? I'm not sure about costs to make them, but it seems that the majority of plant people always have money to spend on plant stuff, including books. Roger wrote: <<< There are a lot factors that go into determining the cost of the contest and a lot of those are optional features that we haven't even discussed yet. Can we postpone the discussion of fees until we've made a few decisions about costs?>>> An excellent idea. Maybe my unpopular opinion will become a moot point? :-) Dave Engle Escondido (San Diego) California ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------ To unsubscribe from this list, e-mail majordomo@aquatic-gardeners.org with "unsubscribe aga-contest" in the body of the message. To subscribe to the digest version, add "subscribe aga-contest-digest" in the same message. Old messages are available at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-contest