I've just been reading over the suggestions which were posted regarding Judging Guidelines, and specifically those which I posted to the website FOLLOWING the material which Justin Collins had sent me from Amano. Most of what I see tends to concern itself with "points" and how many points each different quality should have. We are NOT judging turnips at a county fair. Both my own discussion of Craft and Roger's on Art seemed to make some people nervous, but in my opinion, THESE are the issues we should be addressing here, at least initially. Moving immediately to how the scoring is "weighted" seems to me to be premature. How can you say how MUCH emphasis to place on something until you have decided upon WHAT criteria you are going to consider? I know that several of you have been involved in aquarium shows before, and some of you have shown horses or other perhaps dogs or cats. But, referring here back to "core values", this event is about Aquascaping. It isn't a fish show. Do you really think it appropriate to "rate" an aquascape (I hesitate to use the term "work of art") using the same procedures as you would a turnip or a dahlia or a rabbit? Please read the material from Amano which Justin forwarded for our consideration. It might help us break with old molds and discover new paths more approriate to current conditions. James Purchase Toronto ------------------ To unsubscribe from this list, e-mail majordomo@aquatic-gardeners.org with "unsubscribe aga-contest" in the body of the message. To subscribe to the digest version, add "subscribe aga-contest-digest" in the same message. Old messages are available at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-contest