David V. wrote: I'm not sure I like an entire category for color (or colour <g>), unless it means something like "vibrance" (or would that be "hue saturation" <g>). In other words, I don't really think that one entry should get more points for using red versus the entry that uses only green plants (or no plants, let's not forget that). What about someone who uses red gravel? What about the color of the backdrop? This will probably all be covered in the Composition-Content-Concept-Impression category. ______________________ I think you have the wrong idea. Colour would come into it as "how colour is used" not as points for "a" colour or "many" colours. A beautiful aquascape of only greens or even an entirely done in red tank could get good marks for use of colour. Colours that didn't work well, or added nothing or were too overwhelming wouldn't get good marks. [Gee all these things are hard to express] We have to face the fact too, that no matter what scoresheet or judging guidelines we set-up there will always be subjectivity. What one judge loves, another will hate but if we do it right it should all even out so that the "most" admired entries win. I think Karen's idea of working on the basics and having a trial judging is a great idea. Only way to get across how it would work... if it would work. I think we should all have a go at judging! Be really interesting to see how things came out. Olga in Vancouver ------------------ To unsubscribe from this list, e-mail majordomo@aquatic-gardeners.org with "unsubscribe aga-contest" in the body of the message. To subscribe to the digest version, add "subscribe aga-contest-digest" in the same message. Old messages are available at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-contest