David & Erik, David VanderWall had volunteered to help prepare a pdf format brochure of the guideline material. The one I had prepared (and sent to Erik) was just over 1 MB in size (prepared from a MS Word document that weighed in at over 16 MB). The reasons for the vast difference in file size are beyond me. But I had also done a poster in pdf format which I had sent to Erik, using the same George Booth photo as the one the brochure sports on the cover. I had asked one of the members of my local plant group who has a good color printer to try printing it out and I saw the results yesterday afternoon - the poster printed out beautifully (on glossy photo paper). I'm going to have some photocopied (at my own expense) and take them to the local aquarium shops. I have also been asked to speak to a local aquarium club about the event, so I hope that they will reproduce the poster in their club bulletin. But I'm still concerned over the sheer number of points contained in the various guideline documents - I just hope that we haven't gone overboard with the level of detail we have addressed. When I spoke to the members of my local plant group yesterday afternoon, some seem kind of intimidated..... I don't know if it was the number of points we have covered in the guidelines or the status of the judges, but both were greeted by several people with a "WOW" comment and look... Jim Capelle has said that he has experience with fish shows and I know that Karen has as well. I'd appreciate it if both could chime in here with suggestions and/or advice - should the guidelines be pared down in number? Is the level of detail too much? I have taken the guideline points from the various guideline documents which are currently on the web site and consolidated them into one "master" page. It can be viewed at: http://www.interlog.com/~jpurch/webs/GL/Default.htm. Erik, you had said that you'd like to see a much briefer brochure, and to tell the truth I tend to agree with you.... if presented with a 24 page "booklet" for a contest I'd tend to be intimidated myself. But with my innexperience with shows, I don't know what would be appropriate to include/exclude from a brief list of points. Hopefully, this "master list" can be a place to start paring things down. I still don't mind the main web site having ALL of the points that it currently has - it can act as the final arbiter of the rules, but we need a briefer version for general use. James Purchase Toronto ------------------ To unsubscribe from this list, e-mail majordomo@thekrib.com with "unsubscribe aga-contest" in the body of the message. To subscribe to the digest version, add "subscribe aga-contest-digest" in the same message. Old messages are available at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-contest