On Wed, 21 Apr 2004, S. Hieber wrote: > How do we qualify judges for any aspects of the contest? Excellent question. Here's what *I* use to qualify a judge. The most important thing is, CAN THEY AQUASCAPE? I look at homepages, entries in previous contests, perticipation on the net, etc. I don't care if they do something controversial that some might think sucks, but do they understand the basics, the tools, and have some sense of design in what they do? I also try to balance folks with different backgrounds: Dutch, Nature Aquarium, etc, if possible. I actually create an initial list from winners of THIS contest from which to start bugging people to judge. Unfortunately, the list then gets seriously whittled-down because they're usually entering as well or judged the AB contest and will "never ever ever do something like this again." Oh, and in the past we've let people judge and enter, but it's a serious pain. So I try to avoid it right from the start. So we'll probably NEVER get Jeff Senske to judge. The second factor is, as I mentioned yesterday, how eager *they* are to judge vs. other people thinking they'd make a good judge. Do they have some kind of agenda here? I'm looking at it a bit like panel selection in Jury Duty....they're being called on by the AGA to serve a judging term. So I'm a little leery of "ME ME ME!" OK, at this point in the process I've got maybe 3 people at best, and I'm usually freaking out that we won't have a full panel. So then I e-mail Karen Randall. :) OK, seriously, it's become almost a tradition that Karen ends up on the panel even though everyone else has one term. Then I look at this year's speakers at the convention. I also ask some of my friends to do a hunt for one or two "famous" people to balance things out. I *try* to run the same criteria, i.e. evaluating their credentials as an aquascaper, but it doesn't always work out in this case. But I have to balance the "famousness" with "credentials" and "reliability" for this one or two judges. For instance, I had no idea how Ole Pedersen was going to do as a judge last year, not having access to a computer and going off on a trip for a month right in the middle. Or I was a little bit leery when George and Karla "decided" they'd like to judge separately, thus counting their scores twice as much as them judging as a team (as *I* intended). It is ALWAYS a nail-biter for me to figure out if the judges as a team "get" the biotope category. There's always one who completely spaces out and scores it just like the others. And it's usually the foreign guy who I can't really communicate with. But I think the overall scoring has been fair here. I unfortunately have to sigh when I see posts suggesting judge qualification based on a rigorous set of standards, and how judges should be tossed if they don't conform to such and such. In this contest, we try to have 5 judges on a panel and we've only managed to have this happen once or twice in four years. With a good panel of five, one can have a rousing controversial battle over whether the all-red tank is brilliant or "pond scum", and you know it's not just a fluke because one judge thought it was great. Karen tells me the same thing happens in the Amano contest, btw. - Erik -- Erik Olson erik at thekrib dot com ------------------ To unsubscribe from this list, e-mail majordomo@thekrib.com with "unsubscribe aga-contest" in the body of the message. To subscribe to the digest version, add "subscribe aga-contest-digest" in the same message. Old messages are available at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-contest When asked, log in as username is "aga-contest", and password "second".