There is a lot to comment on here. Some very thoghtful remarks but acouple things jsut jump out at me. --- Steven Pituch <spituch@ev1.net> wrote: > . . . Most of these tanks are planted and need > to be entered in one > of the planted aquaria categories. I just don't understand why having a plant in tank means it can't be a biotope or thematic tank? Why does the category under discussion need to be plantless tanks? Is the point that pure ideal biotopes rarely have submerged plants so this category cannot have plants? If so, that seem like too big jump to make in restricting entries and not one that the contest can easily bear given the number of pure biotope entries so far -- maybe a half dozen over 4 years? > . . . if aquascaping is the chief concern > put the entry in > an aquascaping category. This just seems wrong in the context ( or should I say "contest"). They were *all* aquascaping categories. If there is a recommendation that the category under discussion not be an aquascaping category then let's also drop it from the aquascaping contest. And I think this is the dichotomy that Roger was originally driving at. But it seemed to me that Roger was presenting somewhat as a dilemma and Steve very much so -- choose a horn but only one. But the only reason to treat this as a dilemma (biotope or aquascape) is simply if we decide to do so -- it's not as if biotypical tanks are inherently ugly. The aesthetic design and layout is different with these tanks than with free form tanks -- there is an additonal layer of goals and "requirements" that the representationalism brings. Thus, the reason to treat them in a separate category. But if aquascaping is not going to be a major concern, drop the category from the *aquascaping* contest. However, there is no need to avoid treating these tanks as aquascapes. Thematic designs aren't worthy of aesthetic consideration as thematic designs -- biotypcal designs are worthy of aesthetic consideration as "biotopes", however, tightly or loosely one one wishes to focus the term. Now, I'll admit paludariums might be another matter, after all, only about half of a paludarium is an aquascape ;-) But I'd like that cat to stay inthe contest too. I believe we will get more and better entries over time. sh ===== - - - - - - - - Erik Olson annouces AGA 2004 Annual Aquascaping Awards at the annual Convention Nov 12, 13 & 14; Details & Registration at www.aquatic-gardeners.org & www.gwapa.org __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash ------------------ To unsubscribe from this list, e-mail majordomo@thekrib.com with "unsubscribe aga-contest" in the body of the message. To subscribe to the digest version, add "subscribe aga-contest-digest" in the same message. Old messages are available at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-contest When asked, log in as username is "aga-contest", and password "second".