Hi guys. Message from Dave. Not sure if it's supposed to go to the MC, but it's relevant. Again, holding back replying. I really don't want to continue in these discussions, because he's pushing me in a direction of bringing things out that are best not. I would rather hear people who WANT this PAM deal thing to succeed doing the talking, rather than me. - Erik -- Erik Olson erik at thekrib dot com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 21:59:32 -0800 From: Dave Gomberg <gomberg@wcf.com> To: Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com> Subject: Re: Communication (fwd) I have been thinking a lot about what you said. I think there is a fundamental difference in how we are looking at this suggestion. To me the suggestion is: Should AGA give PAM to its members? To you the suggestion is: Should AGA get involved in PAM? I assume you agree that I have the option to say that AGA would not be permitted to control PAM. I could refuse to sell AGA stock. That would result in an AGA option to provide or not provide that magazine to its members, and just that. I don't see why my saying that AGA can buy in or not as it thinks that is a good idea would make the decision harder? I would think AGA would be best off not investing initially, then if AGA thought it liked PAM it MIGHT elect to buy stock to exert more editorial control. But the main sources of control arise from: 1. AGA has some pretty smart and knowledgeable folks as members/officers. 2. If AGA subscribes 900 folks, it is going to get a lot of say because it controls 900 subs. Pretty clearly, I don't care if I get 900 subs at $12 thru AGA or 500 subs at $20. And getting 500 subs is beginning to look easier. I don't want to hurt AGA, but it is beginning to look like it has a death wish. I want to help and be part of the improvement of the AGA, but it seems like AGA is determined to fight and win/lose. What is wrong with just deciding whether PAM is a good deal for AGA members or not???? -- Dave Gomberg, San Francisco mailto:gomberg@wcf.com For low cost CO2 systems that work: http://www.wcf.com/co2iron Tropica MasterGrow in the USA: http://www.wcf.com/tropica -----------------------------------------------------------------