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Date: Friday, March 24, 2000 7:13 AM
Subject: MCM - Digest V1 #264
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>MCM - Digest Friday, March 24 2000 Volume 01 : Number 264
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>In this issue:
>
> Mary and me
> Re: NEC/TN AQ 2000
> Fwd: RE:NEC
> Re: NEC/TN AQ 2000
> Re: Mary and me
> Re: NEC Notes - First Draft (Very Long!)
> Re: NEC/TN AQ 2000
> Re: Membership decrease
> Olga's survey
> RE: Nov AGA/TN AQ event?
> Re: Nov AGA/TN AQ event?
> Re: Nov AGA/TN AQ event?
> RE: Nov AGA/TN AQ event?
> Status of AGA/TNAQ 2000
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>Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 17:10:18 -0500
>From: Karen Randall <krandall@world.std.com>
>Subject: Mary and me
>
>Hi folks,
>
>Mary's computer is down for the next couple of days, and she asked me to
>let everyone know.
>
>I'm trying to "dig out" and will respond as I get caught up. It was great
>to see all of you who made it to NEC!
>
>Karen
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>Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 17:18:43 -0500
>From: Karen Randall <krandall@world.std.com>
>Subject: Re: NEC/TN AQ 2000
>
>At 08:36 PM 3/21/2000 -0500, Neil wrote:
>
>>That was my understanding too. To allow the possibility for me and Karen
to
>>both attend (and speak) at the first, Charlene is now suggesting Nov 3,4,
>>and 5. She says it is still warm in Chatanooga. In the meanwhile, she is
>>investigate the availability of facilities. If this is agreeable to
>>everyone else, we can nail it down.
>>Any other volunteers to speak?
>
>We should try to get David to speak on lighting, and if Erik can make it,
>he could do the Amazon trip. We should definitely try to get Diana to come
>and present her low-tech approach. It could be billed as a chance to hear
>her speak and get an autographed copy of her bokk!<g>
>
>>>Another feature we could publicise based on that time would be a sneak
>>>preview of the showcase (which would be closed at that point for
judging).
>>
>>Good Idea.
>
>Agreed
>
>Karen
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>Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 04:29:44 -0500
>From: Karen Randall <krandall@world.std.com>
>Subject: Fwd: RE:NEC
>
>Here's another AGA volunteer!!! Do we have a specific job we need assigned
>to someone?
>
>>From: Ludwigia10@aol.com
>>Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 21:47:20 EST
>>Subject: RE:NEC
>>To: krandall@world.std.com
>>X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 100
>>
>> Hi Karen,
>>
>>Well, for being my very first "fish" convention, I can say that it is even
>>better than exspected. My brother and I really appreciate the time you
spent
>>with us and our ramblings at the banquet Sat. night.
>>
>>I thought you also would like to know that I WON the A.thomasi lot at the
>>auction. The second I but those little buggers in the tank, they wanted
FOOD.
>>I feed them some frozen baby brine. What have you been feeding them ??
>>
>>Finally as promised, you will find the link to some pictures of some of my
>>tanks. Some are blurry, but after talking to Eric this weekend, I think I
>>have a handle on how to make them look better. ( My next project??)
>>
>>I look forward to being involed in the AGA !!
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Tim Belanger
>>
>><A HREF="http://members.aol.com/ludwigia10";>Click here: Listing of
directory:
>>/ludwigia10</A>
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>Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 09:48:14 -0500
>From: "David Lass" <davidlass@villasunscape.com>
>Subject: Re: NEC/TN AQ 2000
>
>Thanks, Karen. I would be pleased to speak about lighting at the Annual
>Giant AGA Gathering (the "AGAGAG" -- how's that for an acronym!!
>David
>- ----- Original Message -----
>From: Karen Randall <krandall@world.std.com>
>To: <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2000 5:18 PM
>Subject: Re: NEC/TN AQ 2000
>
>
>> At 08:36 PM 3/21/2000 -0500, Neil wrote:
>>
>> >That was my understanding too. To allow the possibility for me and Karen
>to
>> >both attend (and speak) at the first, Charlene is now suggesting Nov
3,4,
>> >and 5. She says it is still warm in Chatanooga. In the meanwhile, she is
>> >investigate the availability of facilities. If this is agreeable to
>> >everyone else, we can nail it down.
>> >Any other volunteers to speak?
>>
>> We should try to get David to speak on lighting, and if Erik can make it,
>> he could do the Amazon trip. We should definitely try to get Diana to
>come
>> and present her low-tech approach. It could be billed as a chance to
hear
>> her speak and get an autographed copy of her bokk!<g>
>>
>> >>Another feature we could publicise based on that time would be a sneak
>> >>preview of the showcase (which would be closed at that point for
>judging).
>> >
>> >Good Idea.
>>
>> Agreed
>>
>> Karen
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>Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 11:01:17 -0500
>From: "Merrill Cohen" <amc2@ix.netcom.com>
>Subject: Re: Mary and me
>
>Y'all,
>
>Check page 156 -157 of May 2000 "Tropical Fish Hobbyist". At least, I got
>a good "plug" in for aquatic plants.
>
>Good seeing everyone at NEC and meeting some AGA foldks that I didn't know.
>
>Merrill
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>Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 11:35:10 -0500
>From: "Merrill Cohen" <amc2@ix.netcom.com>
>Subject: Re: NEC Notes - First Draft (Very Long!)
>
>Eric,
>
>Great notes or NEC talk!!!! You really did "onehelluva" good job and it is
>appreciated! Wish that I had more time to know more about you -- maybe
>another "get together"!
>
>Merrill
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>Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 11:39:25 -0500
>From: "Merrill Cohen" <amc2@ix.netcom.com>
>Subject: Re: NEC/TN AQ 2000
>
>I vote "YES" to giving Eric what he needs to do the job; YES to the
>speakers and YES to the meeting in Tennessee. Everything that is on the
>AGA "e-mail" these past few days --- YES!
>
>Merrill
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>Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:01:45 -0500
>From: "David Lass" <davidlass@villasunscape.com>
>Subject: Re: Membership decrease
>
>Yes, Paul. I would like to see it.
>David
>- ----- Original Message -----
>From: Paul Krombholz <krombhol@teclink.net>
>To: <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2000 11:10 PM
>Subject: Re: Membership decrease
>
>
>> >On Wed, 22 Mar 2000, Erik Olson wrote:
>> >
>>
>> >
>> >This is definitely the downside of it all; the master copy is maintained
>> >on the website machine. New fields have to be added on the same
machine.
>> >Likewise, creating new types of reports must be done by programming that
>> >machine and the web front end. The web-based system is really good for a
>> >stable arrangement that doesn't need to change very much. If we're
>> >anticipating lots of these sorts of changes to the database itself, I
>> >would not recommend the web-based front end.
>> >
>>
>> One thing we must keep in mind is modifying the database to include part
>or
>> all of Olga's questionaire. Would anybody be interested in looking over
>> the questionaire? Olga put a lot of work into it. I can send it as a
>Word
>> attachment to anyone who is interested.
>>
>> Paul Krombholz, in Central Mississippi, where the chance for more rain
>> tonight is gone.
>>
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>Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 04:39:14 -0500
>From: Karen Randall <krandall@world.std.com>
>Subject: Olga's survey
>
>At 10:10 PM 3/22/2000 -0600, Paul wrote:
>
>>One thing we must keep in mind is modifying the database to include part
or
>>all of Olga's questionaire. Would anybody be interested in looking over
>>the questionaire? Olga put a lot of work into it. I can send it as a
Word
>>attachment to anyone who is interested.
>
>I have seen it, and I agree with Paul. If we can get that project going, I
>think it would be good. I think there are a few sections of the
>quetionaire that I would have worded differently, but I think that will
>always be true. I think it's probably better to have one person go over it
>again, and then go with it as is, at least to start with. Otherwise, we'll
>just end up nit-picking it into a standstill again.<g>
>
>Karen
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>Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 19:57:54 -0500
>From: Neil Frank <nfrank@mindspring.com>
>Subject: RE: Nov AGA/TN AQ event?
>
>Charlene is all fired up about the AGA event in Nov and wants to make
>definite plans (see notes below). The discussion so far on the MC has been
>positive. Do we want to formalize our decision to go forward? I make a
>motion that we have this event on Nov 3,4,5. Does someone want to second?
>Then, all in favor say "aye."
>
>In case I did not mention it before, Charlene is volunteering to do the
>onsite planning. She says the Clarion hotel has great rates, food and
>conference spaces and can set aside 70 rooms.
>
>It would be nice if we can have some other speakers. Diana? Paul? Dorothy?
>Anyone else on the MC like to volunteer? Anyone else to invite from general
>membership?
>I have cc'd Charlene on this note so she knows that we are actively
>discussing. She sounds like she would like an up/down decision as soon as
>possible.
>- --Neil
>
>>From: Charlene Nash <ecn@tennis.org>
>>To: 'Neil Frank' <nfrank@mindspring.com>
>>Subject: RE:
>>Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 07:13:15 -0500
>>X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21)
>>
>>be thinking of who to invite as speaker and also a schedule with a few
back
>>to back concurrent sessions so we can get more talks in on different
levels:
>>beginner and advanced sort of thing. I am proceeding with scheduling and
>>booking efforts then, ok?
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Neil Frank [SMTP:nfrank@mindspring.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2000 5:00 AM
>>> To: Charlene Nash
>>> Subject: Re:
>>>
>>> I heard from Karen.. she was busy last few days with Claus and not
reading
>>> emails..... said she already mailed you to say first week in Nov is OK.
We
>>> also appear to have a majority of AGA "board" who are in favor, although
>>> formal vote as not yet occurred. I like the idea of river boat as an
>>> alternative to catered dinner. can this handle 100-150 attendees in case
>>> we
>>> get "lucky?"
>>> Besides me, Karen and yourself(I assume you will be speaker too), I
would
>>> like to see 1 or 2 more. Should not be a problem.
>>> --Neil
>>>
>>> At 01:18 PM 03/22/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>>> >I have not heard back from Karen yet, but emailed her yesterday.So I am
>>> >waiting for her to get back to me and waiting on an answer from our
>>> booking
>>> >dept for facilities, etc If that week-end works, the aquarium is booked
>>> for
>>> >Sat night already so we could have our catered dinner at the aquarium
on
>>> Fri
>>> >night and do the river boat or something else on Sat. Hope that
week-end
>>> >works, have several people here who want to come! Charlene
>>> >
>>
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>Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 20:38:09 -0500
>From: "David Lass" <davidlass@villasunscape.com>
>Subject: Re: Nov AGA/TN AQ event?
>
>I vote yes, and I will give a talk on lighting if it is so desired.
>David
>- ----- Original Message -----
>From: Neil Frank <nfrank@mindspring.com>
>To: <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
>Cc: Charlene Nash <ecn@tennis.org>
>Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2000 7:57 PM
>Subject: RE: Nov AGA/TN AQ event?
>
>
>> Charlene is all fired up about the AGA event in Nov and wants to make
>> definite plans (see notes below). The discussion so far on the MC has
been
>> positive. Do we want to formalize our decision to go forward? I make a
>> motion that we have this event on Nov 3,4,5. Does someone want to second?
>> Then, all in favor say "aye."
>>
>> In case I did not mention it before, Charlene is volunteering to do the
>> onsite planning. She says the Clarion hotel has great rates, food and
>> conference spaces and can set aside 70 rooms.
>>
>> It would be nice if we can have some other speakers. Diana? Paul?
Dorothy?
>> Anyone else on the MC like to volunteer? Anyone else to invite from
>general
>> membership?
>> I have cc'd Charlene on this note so she knows that we are actively
>> discussing. She sounds like she would like an up/down decision as soon as
>> possible.
>> --Neil
>>
>> >From: Charlene Nash <ecn@tennis.org>
>> >To: 'Neil Frank' <nfrank@mindspring.com>
>> >Subject: RE:
>> >Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 07:13:15 -0500
>> >X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21)
>> >
>> >be thinking of who to invite as speaker and also a schedule with a few
>back
>> >to back concurrent sessions so we can get more talks in on different
>levels:
>> >beginner and advanced sort of thing. I am proceeding with scheduling and
>> >booking efforts then, ok?
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Neil Frank [SMTP:nfrank@mindspring.com]
>> >> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2000 5:00 AM
>> >> To: Charlene Nash
>> >> Subject: Re:
>> >>
>> >> I heard from Karen.. she was busy last few days with Claus and not
>reading
>> >> emails..... said she already mailed you to say first week in Nov is
OK.
>We
>> >> also appear to have a majority of AGA "board" who are in favor,
>although
>> >> formal vote as not yet occurred. I like the idea of river boat as an
>> >> alternative to catered dinner. can this handle 100-150 attendees in
>case
>> >> we
>> >> get "lucky?"
>> >> Besides me, Karen and yourself(I assume you will be speaker too), I
>would
>> >> like to see 1 or 2 more. Should not be a problem.
>> >> --Neil
>> >>
>> >> At 01:18 PM 03/22/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>> >> >I have not heard back from Karen yet, but emailed her yesterday.So I
>am
>> >> >waiting for her to get back to me and waiting on an answer from our
>> >> booking
>> >> >dept for facilities, etc If that week-end works, the aquarium is
>booked
>> >> for
>> >> >Sat night already so we could have our catered dinner at the aquarium
>on
>> >> Fri
>> >> >night and do the river boat or something else on Sat. Hope that
>week-end
>> >> >works, have several people here who want to come! Charlene
>> >> >
>> >
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>Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 18:47:31 -0800 (PST)
>From: Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com>
>Subject: Re: Nov AGA/TN AQ event?
>
>Aye.
>
>- --
>Erik Olson
>erik at thekrib dot com
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>Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 23:50:42 -0600
>From: krombhol@teclink.net (Paul Krombholz)
>Subject: RE: Nov AGA/TN AQ event?
>
>>It would be nice if we can have some other speakers. Diana? Paul? Dorothy?
>>Anyone else on the MC like to volunteer? Anyone else to invite from
general
>>membership?
>
>
>I second the motion.
>
>Aye to all recent proposals!
>
>I really want to come and I can give a talk on my own peculiar methods of
>growing aquatic plants, with an empahsis on mineral nutrition. Hope the
>price of gas doesn't keep going up! It is kind of a long way to do on a
>bicycle!
>
>The only thing that I can see keeping me from coming would be if the event
>occurs during some critical time like final exams.
>
>Paul Krombholz, in Central Mississippi, still in a severe drought
>condition.
>
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>Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 05:57:11 -0500
>From: Neil Frank <nfrank@mindspring.com>
>Subject: Status of AGA/TNAQ 2000
>
>Because I get the digest form of the AGA-MC, I was not able to keep up with
>the fast moving conversation....I happened to look at the web this morning
>and I was happy to see that we have the following votes:
>Merrill - YES
>Erik - YES
>Karen - YES (speaker)
>David - YES (speaker)
>Neil - YES (speaker)
>Dorothy - YES (provided that she does not get snowed in <g>)
>Paul - YES (speaker, provided no final exams)
>Jack - YES
>BOB - Yes (his only stated conflict was 10/15... so I will assume Nov is
OK)
>
>Since we have all the SC and responses from almost the entire MC, I will
>tell Charlene (also speaker) that it is a go. [Nice to see that we can make
>a QUICK decision].
>I suggest that the next step is to prepare the first general annoucement(s)
>for APD, AGA mailout, other email lists... to identify all our potential
>speakers (after we hear from all the AGA-MC and after contacting other
>targeted AGA members (who? George? anyone else?) and then choose (nice to
>be in that possition) ... then decide on number of speakers and specific
>AGA/TNAQ 2000 activities for subsequent ads. I will look to Charlene for
>spearheading this "committee."
>
>I have cc'd Diana just in case she is not receiving AGA-MCM. I agree with
>Karen that she would be a wonderful speaker and excellent draw with her new
>book.
>
>Neil
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I'm sure hoping that all the plans for Tennessee come together. It sure
looks like it from the input of some hard working people. Yes, I would like
to volunteer to speak there on 'plants in Canada' The hobby here has grown
since the introduction of plants in the last few years.
Yes, I vote to get Eric the program he needs.
Would it be possible to send me the labels for the renewal notices. I
would not mind taking over that part and getting the letters done up and
mailed as I did before. Is there a better way out there?
Dorothy
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