I think AGA-PAC is a little wordy and long. Aquatic Gardeners and planted Aquaria are about the same so if we can't use the "summit" yearly then I am in favor of the first annual Aquatic Gardeners Assoc Conference. Simple and to the point. I am also in favor of having the conference every year. Charlene > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-aga-mcm-digest@thekrib.com > [SMTP:owner-aga-mcm-digest@thekrib.com] > Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 7:12 AM > To: aga-mcm-digest@thekrib.com > Subject: MCM - Digest V1 #275 > > > MCM - Digest Friday, April 7 2000 Volume 01 : Number > 275 > > > > In this issue: > > Re: MCM - Digest V1 #273 > Re: MCM - Digest V1 #274 > Re: MCM - Digest V1 #274 > TAG Update: New Publisher and Contest Publicity > Re: TAG Update: New Publisher and Contest Publicity > Re: TAG Update: New Publisher and Contest Publicity > Re: TAG Update: New Publisher and Contest Publicity > Name for the event > > To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@aquatic-gardeners.org with > "unsubscribe aga-mcm-digest" in the body. > > Old messages are available at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-mcm > When asked, log in as username is "aga-mcm", and password "incorporate". > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 12:32:44 -0400 > From: "Mary McCaw" <marymccaw@mediaone.net> > Subject: Re: MCM - Digest V1 #273 > > - ----- Original Message ----- > From: Charlene Nash <ecn@tennis.org> > To: <aga-mcm@thekrib.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 11:48 AM > Subject: RE: MCM - Digest V1 #273 > > > > I haven't replied before so hope this works-I emailed some of you > privately but my feelings are that the event is going to be a yearly event > and our "summit" meeting every year so I would like the consistency of > calling it the same thing every year. People won't be discouraged by the > title, I think it is more interesting anyway. We can't discourage any of > those foreign guys if they choose to come ahead this year now can we! > What > if they decide on their own to come on down? Using the same title yearly > lets > everyone know that it is our organization putting this on yearly for > > everyone's knowledge and benefit. Charlene > > I agree with Charlene. I think she has made some excellent points, and I > favor using "Aquatic Plant Summit" for the 1st convention. > > Mary > > > > > ------------------ > To unsubscribe from this list, e-mail majordomo@thekrib.com > with "unsubscribe aga-mcm" in the body of the message. > To subscribe to the digest version, add "subscribe aga-mcm-digest" > in the same message. > Old messages are available at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-mcm > When asked, log in as username is "aga-mcm", and password "incorporate". > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 14:03:42 -0400 > From: "Dorothy Reimer" <dreimer@wwdc.com> > Subject: Re: MCM - Digest V1 #274 > > - -----Original Message----- > From: MCM - Digest <owner-aga-mcm-digest@thekrib.com> > To: aga-mcm-digest@thekrib.com <aga-mcm-digest@thekrib.com> > Date: Thursday, April 06, 2000 7:13 AM > Subject: MCM - Digest V1 #274 > > > > > >MCM - Digest Thursday, April 6 2000 Volume 01 : Number > 274 > > > > > > > >In this issue: > > > > Re: > > Re: Details for AGA-AQTN2000 > > Re: Details for AGA-AQTN2000 > > RE: MCM - Digest V1 #273 > > Re: MCM - Digest V1 #273 > > RE: MCM - Digest V1 #273 > > > >To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@aquatic-gardeners.org with > >"unsubscribe aga-mcm-digest" in the body. > > > >Old messages are available at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-mcm > >When asked, log in as username is "aga-mcm", and password "incorporate". > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Great strides have been made for the upcoming conference. I would like to > see it called the 'Aquatic Gardeners Summit' or 'Aquatic Gardeners Plant > Summit'. > I'm looking forward to being there. > So glad that Mike has accepted the post. He can come up with some good > ideas. > > Dorothy > > >Hmmm. Anyone else want to come up with something different? > > > >Karen > > ------------------ > >Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 11:48:48 -0400 > >From: Charlene Nash <ecn@tennis.org> > >Subject: RE: MCM - Digest V1 #273 > > > >I haven't replied before so hope this works-I emailed some of you > privately > >but my feelings are that the event is going to be a yearly event and our > >"summit" meeting every year so I would like the consistency of calling it > >the same thing every year. People won't be discouraged by the title, I > >think it is more interesting anyway. We can't discourage any of those > >foreign guys if they choose to come ahead this year now can we! What if > >they decide on their own to come on down? Using the same title yearly > lets > >everyone know that it is our organization putting this on yearly for > >everyone's knowledge and benefit. Charlene > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: owner-aga-mcm-digest@thekrib.com > >> [SMTP:owner-aga-mcm-digest@thekrib.com] > >> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 7:12 AM > >> To: aga-mcm-digest@thekrib.com > >> Subject: MCM - Digest V1 #273 > >> > >> > > > > ------------------ > To unsubscribe from this list, e-mail majordomo@thekrib.com > with "unsubscribe aga-mcm" in the body of the message. > To subscribe to the digest version, add "subscribe aga-mcm-digest" > in the same message. > Old messages are available at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-mcm > When asked, log in as username is "aga-mcm", and password "incorporate". > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 14:36:13 -0400 > From: "Mary McCaw" <marymccaw@mediaone.net> > Subject: Re: MCM - Digest V1 #274 > > > Great strides have been made for the upcoming conference. I would like > to > see it called the 'Aquatic Gardeners Summit' or 'Aquatic Gardeners Plant > Summit'. I'm looking forward to being there. So glad that Mike has > accepted the post. He can come up with some good ideas. > > > > Dorothy > > > > >Hmmm. Anyone else want to come up with something different? > > > > > >Karen > > I have been thinking that it would be a good idea to work the AGA into the > title somehow. I like the second of the two better since is seems to > blend > together the idea of the summit and the AGA sponsorship better. Another > possibility. What about The AGA Aquatic Plant Summit? Too long? > > Mary > > > ------------------ > To unsubscribe from this list, e-mail majordomo@thekrib.com > with "unsubscribe aga-mcm" in the body of the message. > To subscribe to the digest version, add "subscribe aga-mcm-digest" > in the same message. > Old messages are available at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-mcm > When asked, log in as username is "aga-mcm", and password "incorporate". > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 18:07:53 -0400 > From: "Mary McCaw" <marymccaw@mediaone.net> > Subject: TAG Update: New Publisher and Contest Publicity > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > - ------=_NextPart_000_008D_01BF9FF3.06EE19C0 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Hi, everyone, > > The process took a little longer than I expected, but we have a new = > publisher! I interviewed 5 different printers. There is no question in = > my mind that I made the right choice. Our new publisher is The Print = > Centre in Needham, MA which is ten minutes from my house. Our contact = > person is Joel Skolnick who is the owner. Printing publications like = > TAG is exactly what they like to do, and Joel was eager to get the job. = > Based on my experience in dealing with him, I am sure he will be easy to = > work with and will do a good job. He says it is important to him to get = > the job done right. > > I had all the people I talked to give me an estimate for V13n1. He and = > one other printer gave me the lowest estimates. The other estimates = > were $200 or more higher. His service was so much better than the other = > low bid and the higher bidders as well that the choice was obvious. =20 > > This afternoon I called Joel to give him the job and also to discuss the = > best and most cost effective way to publicize the contest. We decided = > on a two-sided, stapled flyer (a booklet form would have made it much = > more expensive). This flyer will be inserted into the next issue of = > TAG. Since I didn't know how long the flyer will be, I asked him to = > give me a figure for a 10 page one. This would cost $275 for 650 copies = > which is about what I expect the count to be for the next issue. > > Mary > > =20 > > - ------=_NextPart_000_008D_01BF9FF3.06EE19C0 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> > <HTML><HEAD> > <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = > http-equiv=3DContent-Type> > <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2314.1000" name=3DGENERATOR> > <STYLE></STYLE> > </HEAD> > <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi, everyone,</FONT></DIV> > <DIV> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The process took a little longer than I = > expected,=20 > but we have a new publisher! I interviewed 5 different = > printers. =20 > There is no question in my mind that I made the right choice. Our = > new=20 > publisher is The Print Centre in Needham, MA which is ten minutes from = > my=20 > house. </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Our contact person is = > Joel Skolnick=20 > who is the owner. Printing</FONT><FONT face=3DArial=20 > size=3D2> publications like TAG is exactly what they like to = > do,=20 > and Joel was eager to get the job. Based on my = > experience in=20 > dealing with him, I am sure he will be easy to work with and will do a = > good=20 > job. He says it is important to him to get the job done=20 > right.</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I had all the people I talked to give = > me an=20 > estimate for V13n1. He and one other printer gave me the lowest=20 > estimates. The other estimates were $200 or more higher. His = > service=20 > was so much better than the other low bid and the higher bidders as well = > that=20 > the choice was obvious. </FONT></DIV> > <DIV> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This afternoon I called Joel to give = > him the job=20 > and also to discuss the best and most cost effective way to publicize = > the=20 > contest. We decided on a two-sided, stapled flyer (a booklet form = > would=20 > have made it much more expensive). This flyer will be inserted = > into the=20 > next issue of TAG. Since I didn't know how long the flyer will = > be, I=20 > asked him to give me a figure for a 10 page one. This would cost = > $275 for=20 > 650 copies which is about what I expect the count to be for the = > next=20 > issue.</FONT></DIV> > <DIV> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mary</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> > > - ------=_NextPart_000_008D_01BF9FF3.06EE19C0-- > > ------------------ > To unsubscribe from this list, e-mail majordomo@thekrib.com > with "unsubscribe aga-mcm" in the body of the message. > To subscribe to the digest version, add "subscribe aga-mcm-digest" > in the same message. > Old messages are available at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-mcm > When asked, log in as username is "aga-mcm", and password "incorporate". > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 20:36:49 -0400 > From: Karen Randall <krandall@world.std.com> > Subject: Re: TAG Update: New Publisher and Contest Publicity > > At 06:07 PM 4/6/2000 -0400, you wrote: > > > > Hi, everyone, > > > > The process took a little longer than I expected, but we have a new > > publisher! I interviewed 5 different printers. There is no question in > my > > mind that I made the right choice. Our new publisher is The Print > Centre in > > Needham, MA which is ten minutes from my house. Our contact person is > Joel > > Skolnick who is the owner. Printing publications like TAG is exactly > what > > they like to do, and Joel was eager to get the job. Based on my > experience > > in dealing with him, I am sure he will be easy to work with and will do > a > > good job. He says it is important to him to get the job done right. > > > > I had all the people I talked to give me an estimate for V13n1. He and > one > > other printer gave me the lowest estimates. The other estimates were > $200 or > > more higher. His service was so much better than the other low bid and > the > > higher bidders as well that the choice was obvious. > > > > This afternoon I called Joel to give him the job and also to discuss the > best > > and most cost effective way to publicize the contest. We decided on a > > two-sided, stapled flyer (a booklet form would have made it much more > > expensive). This flyer will be inserted into the next issue of TAG. > Since I > > didn't know how long the flyer will be, I asked him to give me a figure > for > > a 10 page one. This would cost $275 for 650 copies which is about what > I > > expect the count to be for the next issue. > > > > Congratulations, Mary, that sounds great! > > Hopefully the committee can distill something down enough to fit in 10 > pages! > > Karen > ------------------ > To unsubscribe from this list, e-mail majordomo@thekrib.com > with "unsubscribe aga-mcm" in the body of the message. > To subscribe to the digest version, add "subscribe aga-mcm-digest" > in the same message. > Old messages are available at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-mcm > When asked, log in as username is "aga-mcm", and password "incorporate". > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 22:09:47 -0400 > From: "Mary McCaw" <marymccaw@mediaone.net> > Subject: Re: TAG Update: New Publisher and Contest Publicity > > - ----- Original Message ----- > From: Karen Randall <krandall@world.std.com> > To: <aga-mcm@thekrib.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 8:36 PM > Subject: Re: TAG Update: New Publisher and Contest Publicity > > > > At 06:07 PM 4/6/2000 -0400, you wrote: > > > Congratulations, Mary, that sounds great! > > > > Hopefully the committee can distill something down enough to fit in 10 > pages! > > > > Karen > > There are a couple of things I forgot to mention. I also e-mailed James > who > had volunteered to do the publicity for TAG, and gave him the go-ahead to > do > the layout. Essentially he is going to use the web site material. He is > going to do his best to keep the number of pages down. If things go > according to plan, TAG should be out by the middle of May, and at the > latest > by the end of May. I am going away on May 22nd for 2 weeks, so it will be > out by then for sure. > > Mary > > > ------------------ > To unsubscribe from this list, e-mail majordomo@thekrib.com > with "unsubscribe aga-mcm" in the body of the message. > To subscribe to the digest version, add "subscribe aga-mcm-digest" > in the same message. > Old messages are available at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-mcm > When asked, log in as username is "aga-mcm", and password "incorporate". > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 20:11:40 -0700 (PDT) > From: Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com> > Subject: Re: TAG Update: New Publisher and Contest Publicity > > On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, Mary McCaw wrote: > > > There are a couple of things I forgot to mention. I also e-mailed James > who > > had volunteered to do the publicity for TAG, and gave him the go-ahead > to do > > the layout. Essentially he is going to use the web site material. He > is > > going to do his best to keep the number of pages down. > > I'll try to keep him focused on keeping the material tight. That seems to > be an area in which James has problems: the current insert with all the > material is 25 pages long, and full of white space and reduncancy! But I > beleive we can cut this to 1/3 the size very easily. > > - Erik > > - -- > Erik Olson > erik at thekrib dot com > > ------------------ > To unsubscribe from this list, e-mail majordomo@thekrib.com > with "unsubscribe aga-mcm" in the body of the message. > To subscribe to the digest version, add "subscribe aga-mcm-digest" > in the same message. > Old messages are available at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-mcm > When asked, log in as username is "aga-mcm", and password "incorporate". > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 23:15:37 -0400 > From: Neil Frank <nfrank@mindspring.com> > Subject: Name for the event > > Several people seemed to like my suggestion for the title > of the conference, however there were a few good constructive comments. I > will try to summarize and tie everything together > > Mike pointed out that the acronym is the NAAPC.... not good! > > I also had second thoughts about calling it the "North American" Aquarium > Plant Confernce... because this makes it sound like we are a NA > organization - which we aren't- and it even sound like we might be talking > about NA plants. > Charlene commented that > >>We can't discourage any of those foreign guys if they choose to come > ahead this year now can we! > and she added > >>Using the same title yearly lets > >>everyone know that it is our organization putting this on yearly for > >>everyone's knowledge and benefit. > > Then Mike suggested: > >What about just calling it the Aquatic Gardeners Asociation Conference? > >Nice and simple and it says who we are and what we're doing. > > So how about a combination of our ideas: > I would like to now propose: > Aquatic Gardeners Association Planted Aquarium Conference > or AGA-PAC for short. > A longer version would be the 1st AGA-PAC... or AGA-PAC 2000. > > Karen said: > >Claus felt strongly that > >we needed to continue to use the "Summit" name to keep Amano on the hook. > > I agree 100% that we need a summit to get Amano (that was the name of his > meeting) and also agree with her logic that a non-profit AGA can get him > to > pay his own way..... but disagree that we need to call our ANNUAL event an > annual summit.... if anything that will take away from its specialness. > I suggest that > Next year our event can be the AGA-PAC 2001 and would be billed as > occuring > in combination with AGA hosting the "International Aquatic Plant Summit." > > If Europe does not follow suit in 2-3 years, then we can do it again. Much > the same with the International Cichlid Convention (ICC) organized by the > ACA. > > How does that sound? > > - --Neil > > ------------------ > To unsubscribe from this list, e-mail majordomo@thekrib.com > with "unsubscribe aga-mcm" in the body of the message. > To subscribe to the digest version, add "subscribe aga-mcm-digest" > in the same message. > Old messages are available at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-mcm > When asked, log in as username is "aga-mcm", and password "incorporate". > > ------------------------------ > > End of MCM - Digest V1 #275 > *************************** ------------------ To unsubscribe from this list, e-mail majordomo@thekrib.com with "unsubscribe aga-mcm" in the body of the message. To subscribe to the digest version, add "subscribe aga-mcm-digest" in the same message. Old messages are available at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-mcm When asked, log in as username is "aga-mcm", and password "incorporate".