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I think AGA-PAC is a little wordy and long.  Aquatic Gardeners and planted
Aquaria are about the same so if we can't use the "summit" yearly then I am
in favor of the first annual Aquatic Gardeners Assoc Conference.  Simple and
to the point.  I am also in favor of having the conference every year.
Charlene

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> MCM - Digest           Friday, April 7 2000           Volume 01 : Number
> 275
> 
> 
> 
> In this issue:
> 
>    Re: MCM - Digest V1 #273
>    Re: MCM - Digest V1 #274
>    Re: MCM - Digest V1 #274
>    TAG Update:  New Publisher and Contest Publicity
>    Re: TAG Update:  New Publisher and Contest Publicity
>    Re: TAG Update:  New Publisher and Contest Publicity
>    Re: TAG Update:  New Publisher and Contest Publicity
>    Name for the event
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> Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 12:32:44 -0400
> From: "Mary McCaw" <marymccaw@mediaone.net>
> Subject: Re: MCM - Digest V1 #273
> 
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: Charlene Nash <ecn@tennis.org>
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> Subject: RE: MCM - Digest V1 #273
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> 
> > I haven't replied before so hope this works-I emailed some of you
> privately but my feelings are that the event is going to be a yearly event
> and our "summit" meeting every year so I would like the consistency of
> calling it the same thing every year.  People won't be discouraged by the
> title, I  think it is more interesting anyway.  We can't discourage any of
> those foreign guys if they choose to come ahead this year now can we!
> What
> if they decide on their own to come on down?  Using the same title yearly
> lets
> everyone know that it is our organization putting this on yearly for
> > everyone's knowledge and benefit.  Charlene
> 
> I agree with Charlene.  I think she has made some excellent points, and I
> favor using "Aquatic Plant Summit" for the 1st convention.
> 
> Mary
> >
> 
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> Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 14:03:42 -0400
> From: "Dorothy Reimer" <dreimer@wwdc.com>
> Subject: Re: MCM - Digest V1 #274
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> >MCM - Digest          Thursday, April 6 2000          Volume 01 : Number
> 274
> >
> >
> >
> >In this issue:
> >
> >   Re:
> >   Re: Details for AGA-AQTN2000
> >   Re: Details for AGA-AQTN2000
> >   RE: MCM - Digest V1 #273
> >   Re: MCM - Digest V1 #273
> >   RE: MCM - Digest V1 #273
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> Great strides have been made for the upcoming conference. I would like to
> see it called the 'Aquatic Gardeners Summit' or 'Aquatic Gardeners Plant
> Summit'.
> I'm looking forward to being there.
> So glad that Mike has accepted the post. He can come up with some good
> ideas.
> 
> Dorothy
> 
> >Hmmm.  Anyone else want to come up with something different?
> >
> >Karen
> >  ------------------
> >Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 11:48:48 -0400
> >From: Charlene Nash <ecn@tennis.org>
> >Subject: RE: MCM - Digest V1 #273
> >
> >I haven't replied before so hope this works-I emailed some of you
> privately
> >but my feelings are that the event is going to be a yearly event and our
> >"summit" meeting every year so I would like the consistency of calling it
> >the same thing every year.  People won't be discouraged by the title, I
> >think it is more interesting anyway.  We can't discourage any of those
> >foreign guys if they choose to come ahead this year now can we!  What if
> >they decide on their own to come on down?  Using the same title yearly
> lets
> >everyone know that it is our organization putting this on yearly for
> >everyone's knowledge and benefit.  Charlene
> >
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> Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 14:36:13 -0400
> From: "Mary McCaw" <marymccaw@mediaone.net>
> Subject: Re: MCM - Digest V1 #274
> 
> > Great strides have been made for the upcoming conference. I would like
> to
> see it called the 'Aquatic Gardeners Summit' or 'Aquatic Gardeners Plant
> Summit'.  I'm looking forward to being there.  So glad that Mike has
> accepted the post. He can come up with some good ideas.
> >
> > Dorothy
> >
> > >Hmmm.  Anyone else want to come up with something different?
> > >
> > >Karen
> 
> I have been thinking that it would be a good idea to work the AGA into the
> title somehow.  I like the second of the two better since is seems to
> blend
> together the idea of  the summit and the AGA sponsorship better.  Another
> possibility.  What about The AGA Aquatic Plant Summit?  Too long?
> 
> Mary
> 
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> Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 18:07:53 -0400
> From: "Mary McCaw" <marymccaw@mediaone.net>
> Subject: TAG Update:  New Publisher and Contest Publicity
> 
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> Hi, everyone,
> 
> The process took a little longer than I expected, but we have a new =
> publisher!  I interviewed 5 different printers.  There is no question in =
> my mind that I made the right choice.  Our new publisher is The Print =
> Centre in Needham, MA which is ten minutes from my house.  Our contact =
> person is Joel Skolnick who is the owner.  Printing publications like =
> TAG is exactly what they like to do, and Joel was eager to get the job.  =
> Based on my experience in dealing with him, I am sure he will be easy to =
> work with and will do a good job.  He says it is important to him to get =
> the job done right.
> 
> I had all the people I talked to give me an estimate for V13n1.  He and =
> one other printer gave me the lowest estimates.  The other estimates =
> were $200 or more higher.  His service was so much better than the other =
> low bid and the higher bidders as well that the choice was obvious. =20
> 
> This afternoon I called Joel to give him the job and also to discuss the =
> best and most cost effective way to publicize the contest.  We decided =
> on a two-sided, stapled flyer (a booklet form would have made it much =
> more expensive).  This flyer will be inserted into the next issue of =
> TAG.  Since I didn't know how long the flyer will be,  I asked him to =
> give me a figure for a 10 page one.  This would cost $275 for 650 copies =
> which is about what I expect the count to be for the next issue.
> 
> Mary
> 
>  =20
> 
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> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi, everyone,</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The process took a little longer than I =
> expected,=20
> but we have a new publisher!&nbsp; I interviewed 5 different =
> printers.&nbsp;=20
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> new=20
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> my=20
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> Joel Skolnick=20
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> do,=20
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> good=20
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> right.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I had all the people I talked to give =
> me an=20
> estimate for V13n1.&nbsp; He and one other printer gave me the lowest=20
> estimates.&nbsp; The other estimates were $200 or more higher.&nbsp; His =
> service=20
> was so much better than the other low bid and the higher bidders as well =
> that=20
> the choice was obvious.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This afternoon I called Joel to give =
> him the job=20
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> would=20
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> into the=20
> next issue of TAG.&nbsp; Since I didn't know how long the flyer will =
> be,&nbsp; I=20
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> $275 for=20
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> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mary</FONT></DIV>
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> Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 20:36:49 -0400
> From: Karen Randall <krandall@world.std.com>
> Subject: Re: TAG Update:  New Publisher and Contest Publicity
> 
> At 06:07 PM 4/6/2000 -0400, you wrote: 
> >
> > Hi, everyone,
> >  
> > The process took a little longer than I expected, but we have a new
> > publisher!  I interviewed 5 different printers.  There is no question in
> my
> > mind that I made the right choice.  Our new publisher is The Print
> Centre in
> > Needham, MA which is ten minutes from my house.  Our contact person is
> Joel
> > Skolnick who is the owner.  Printing publications like TAG is exactly
> what
> > they like to do, and Joel was eager to get the job.  Based on my
> experience
> > in dealing with him, I am sure he will be easy to work with and will do
> a
> > good job.  He says it is important to him to get the job done right.
> >  
> > I had all the people I talked to give me an estimate for V13n1.  He and
> one
> > other printer gave me the lowest estimates.  The other estimates were
> $200 or
> > more higher.  His service was so much better than the other low bid and
> the
> > higher bidders as well that the choice was obvious.  
> >  
> > This afternoon I called Joel to give him the job and also to discuss the
> best
> > and most cost effective way to publicize the contest.  We decided on a
> > two-sided, stapled flyer (a booklet form would have made it much more
> > expensive).  This flyer will be inserted into the next issue of TAG.
> Since I
> > didn't know how long the flyer will be,  I asked him to give me a figure
> for
> > a 10 page one.  This would cost $275 for 650 copies which is about what
> I
> > expect the count to be for the next issue.
> 
> 
> 
> Congratulations, Mary, that sounds great!
> 
> Hopefully the committee can distill something down enough to fit in 10
> pages!
> 
> Karen
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> ------------------------------
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> Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 22:09:47 -0400
> From: "Mary McCaw" <marymccaw@mediaone.net>
> Subject: Re: TAG Update:  New Publisher and Contest Publicity
> 
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: Karen Randall <krandall@world.std.com>
> To: <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 8:36 PM
> Subject: Re: TAG Update: New Publisher and Contest Publicity
> 
> 
> > At 06:07 PM 4/6/2000 -0400, you wrote:
> 
> > Congratulations, Mary, that sounds great!
> >
> > Hopefully the committee can distill something down enough to fit in 10
> pages!
> >
> > Karen
> 
> There are a couple of things I forgot to mention.  I also e-mailed James
> who
> had volunteered to do the publicity for TAG, and gave him the go-ahead to
> do
> the layout.  Essentially he is going to use the web site material.  He is
> going to do his best to keep the number of pages down.  If things go
> according to plan, TAG should be out by the middle of May, and at the
> latest
> by the end of May.  I am going away on May 22nd for 2 weeks, so it will be
> out by then for sure.
> 
> Mary
> 
> 
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> Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 20:11:40 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com>
> Subject: Re: TAG Update:  New Publisher and Contest Publicity
> 
> On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, Mary McCaw wrote:
> 
> > There are a couple of things I forgot to mention.  I also e-mailed James
> who
> > had volunteered to do the publicity for TAG, and gave him the go-ahead
> to do
> > the layout.  Essentially he is going to use the web site material.  He
> is
> > going to do his best to keep the number of pages down.  
> 
> I'll try to keep him focused on keeping the material tight. That seems to
> be an area in which James has problems: the current insert with all the
> material is 25 pages long, and full of white space and reduncancy!  But I
> beleive we can cut this to 1/3 the size very easily.
> 
>   - Erik
> 
> - -- 
> Erik Olson
> erik at thekrib dot com
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> Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 23:15:37 -0400
> From: Neil Frank <nfrank@mindspring.com>
> Subject: Name for the event
> 
> Several people seemed to like my suggestion for the title 
> of the conference, however there were a few good constructive comments. I
> will try to summarize and tie everything together
> 
> Mike pointed out that the acronym is the NAAPC.... not good!
> 
> I also had second thoughts about calling it the "North American" Aquarium
> Plant Confernce... because this makes it sound like we are a NA
> organization - which we aren't- and it even sound like we might be talking
> about NA plants. 
> Charlene commented that
> >>We can't discourage any of those foreign guys if they choose to come
> ahead this year now can we! 
>     and she added
> >>Using the same title yearly lets
> >>everyone know that it is our organization putting this on yearly for
> >>everyone's knowledge and benefit.
> 
> Then Mike suggested: 
> >What about just calling it the Aquatic Gardeners Asociation Conference?
> >Nice and simple and it says who we are and what we're doing.  
> 
> So how about a combination of our ideas:
> I would like to now propose:
>  Aquatic Gardeners Association Planted Aquarium Conference 
>   or AGA-PAC for short.
> A longer version would be the 1st AGA-PAC... or AGA-PAC 2000.
> 
> Karen said:
> >Claus felt strongly that
> >we needed to continue to use the "Summit" name to keep Amano on the hook.
> 
> I agree 100% that we need a summit to get Amano (that was the name of his
> meeting) and also agree with her logic that a non-profit AGA can get him
> to
> pay his own way..... but disagree that we need to call our ANNUAL event an
> annual summit.... if anything that will take away from its specialness.
> I suggest that
> Next year our event can be the AGA-PAC 2001 and would be billed as
> occuring
> in combination with AGA hosting the "International Aquatic Plant Summit." 
> 
> If Europe does not follow suit in 2-3 years, then we can do it again. Much
> the same with the International Cichlid Convention (ICC) organized by the
> ACA.
> 
> How does that sound?
> 
> - --Neil
> 
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