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Re: Whip-crack: ELECTIONS/VOTING RIGHTS
Seems to me that this question will be resolved when Bob McCaw incorporates
AGA and we set up stuff like By-Laws, etc. In all the companies I've been
involved with the SC = The Board of Directors and the MC = Advisory Board.
Advistory Board is composed of any committee heads plus a few others. The
shareho0lders = the membership votes on a regular basis for members of the
Board of Directors, and the officers serve at the pleasure of the Board of
Directors. That's where the power is in American business, and it seems to
work as a good model.
David
----- Original Message -----
From: Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com>
To: <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2000 11:09 PM
Subject: Whip-crack: ELECTIONS/VOTING RIGHTS
> OK, I'm still settling in on how often to keep after everyone here. I'm
> going to try to do this maybe once a week.
>
> The hot issue is getting the bylaws drafted. To recap Mary's
> note (http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-mcm/msg00986.html):
>
> * Can the MC vote, or is it just the SC?
> * How are committee members elected? (General membership?)
>
> So far, Mary has voiced her opinion on some of the 2nd issue. Nobody has
> voiced an opinion on the first.
>
> My opinion on the first issue: I see the MC as evolving into a group
> representing (at least including) heads of all the different active (or
> hopefully active) projects of the AGA, and the primary purpose of this
> group is to communicate back and forth about these issues, and advise each
> other. By keeping the MC as non-voting, we can bring in a variety of
> people onto the MC more or less "immediately" because they are performing
> an important high-level function in the AGA, without having to debate over
> whether they have been here long enough to have any sort of voting status.
> It would have made the debate over bringing in the most recent folks
> TRIVIAL and quick.
>
> OK, so if we did this, then I assume it would be the Steering Committee
> that can appoint members of the MC. But how would new members be
> appointed in the SC? Is it OK for the SC to select (and dispose of, if
> necessary) its own? I think that's how it works now. I'd like to hear
> more about how some other organizations do this.
>
> - Erik
>
> PS: Called John Cogwell about backup TAG on Monday. He seemed
> stand-offish that I actually CALLED and didn't wait for him to e-mail me,
> re-assuring me that the art department was working on it and I'd hear from
> him later that day. Friday I called back again, and he explained that
> the art department been hit by the famous ILOVEYOU virus (one of which's
> effects included destroying any image files it can) and they'd blown off
> all the work until they controlled it. Meanwhile, I've got TAG'94 scanned
> in.
>
> PPS: Without further ado, here's the big list, which I'll be including in
> these weekly whip-cracks:
>
> Task Culprit Phase
>
> CONFERENCE
>
> Need details for website Charlene Do it
> Advertise on website Erik Pending Charlene
> Do periodic updates on APD Karen everyone remind her
> Advertise elsewhere Mary et. al. Mary Made suggestions
>
>
> Future conferences and regional meetings/speakers tabled
> with local clubs (discussion around Feb 13th)
>
>
> MANAGEMENT
>
> Does MC vote on issues? Entire SC Discussion
>
> "Up until the TAG vote, the SC has made all the "major" decisions
regarding
> the AGA. The MC has been more advisory in capacity, as well as, in
theory,
> running various committees. I'm not saying that another model might not
be
> better, just that this is how it has been done up until now. But I think
> we ALL agree that AGA could stand with some new ways of doing business. I
> don't have any problem with changing things, but I think we should make
> some decisions on how we think things _should_ be done, and get it written
> down in some fashion so that we don't have to reinvent the wheel every
time
> a decision, particularly a contentious one, needs to be made." - Karen
>
>
> INCORPORATION
>
> Draft bylaws Bob McCaw ? need to find out ?
> Approve Bylaws SC or MC pending draft?
>
> http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-mcm/msg00730.html
> http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-mcm/msg00727.html
> http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-mcm/msg00720.html
> http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-mcm/msg00714.html (the main one from Bob
McCaw)
> http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-mcm/msg00698.html
> http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-mcm/msg00695.html
> http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-mcm/msg00691.html
> http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-mcm/msg00675.html (Bob Cashin's original
bylaws)
> http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-mcm/msg00634.html
> http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-mcm/msg00624.html (Bob McCaw's first message)
>
>
> SALES
>
> Expand T-shirt and pin sales? tabled
>
> "I have only been selling T-shirts and pins when I go to events or
> speaking engagements. I have sold a couple by mail but I would gladly turn
> them over if someone would like to take over. I have enjoyed selling them
> but as Karen says you have to pack them along." - Dorothy
>
> Archived TAG articles on CD-ROM tabled
> Continue printing back issues?
> http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-mcm/msg00682.html
>
> Unusual Plant Sales tabled
>
> TREASURY
> Need annual budget from everyone E-mail David!
> responded: erik
>
> Treat Canadians as other non-US because of $3.50 charge david discussion
>
> TAG
>
> Get soft copies of documents from Universal Printing erik waiting on John
Cogwell
> Mary says may need to call him: (919) 361-5809
> 5/8 - called John. Says he'll have info for me this afternoon
>
> Scan old TAGs for archive erik proceeding
> http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-mcm/msg00697.html
>
> Memberships expiring jack resolved (not an issue)
> "I have been continuing Dorothy's tradition of sending out
> renewal notices." - Jack
> Membership database upgrade jack tabled?
> (filemaker? internet-based?)
>
> Membership Roster in TAG tabled?
>
> Advertising in other publications mary resolved
>
> WEBSITE
>
> what to do with Olga's survey? tabled
> http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-mcm/msg00873.html
> add survey to membership database? tabled
>
>
> VOLUNTEERS
> Volunteer coordinator tabled
> http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-mcm/msg00668.html
>
> Tim Belanger tabled
> http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-mcm/msg00847.html
>
>
>
>
>
>
> The Steering Committee:
>
> Neil Frank
> Karen Randall
> Erik Olson
> Dorothy Reimer
> David Lass Treasurer
> Bob Cashin
>
> The Management Committee:
>
> Jack O'Leary Membership
> Mary McCaw TAG Editor
> Paul Krombholz Education and Technical Advisor
> Merrill Cohen
> Charlene Nash Convention Chair
> Mike Hellweg Historian
> Diana Walstad Sales
>
>
> --
> Erik Olson
> erik at thekrib dot com
>
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