> From: Karen Randall <krandall@WORLD.STD.COM> > I told him that _nothing_ but these 4 "standard" ads were part of this > arrangement, and that _any_ changes to that arrangement had to be approved > by the SC. Any other promotional announcements of AGA events, etc, were > simply that, informing his readers of happenings in the hobby. > > I said that at the end of this period, we could all look at where we stood, > and decide if we wanted to proceed forward on the same terms, and he agreed > to this as well. Thank you very much Karen for taking care of this. It makes several points now moot, and I think we can either vote or skip it and just officially give Mary control of the PAM ads from here on out... just print three of them. :) > He also made the comment that he almost always will back down if someone > really strongly really objects to something he says. I think that's > probably true. When I think about it, he has caused us to get all up in > arms a number of times and he has pressured us to do things we weren't > comfortable with. But when push has come to shove, when we have put our > collective feet down, he _does_ back right down, and in fairly good grace. > And he has not held _any_ of these disagreements against us. We seem to > spend much more time worrying about what he "might" do to harm AGA than > dealing with anything he's actually done. Very useful observation. I guess this is what Neil was poking at a couple days back, that Dave is trying to find out what he can get away with, but we interpret this as demands (he certainly words them that way). I will tuck this away as part of my "dealing with dave" utility belt for next time. - Erik PS: I'm starting to get the feeling I may be dragging too many issues to the MC->SC discussion/voting table than some feel I should. I am trying to err on the side of caution, so we can back off the details later as we settle in. Remember we still don't even have any bylaws... no guidance! -- Erik Olson erik at thekrib dot com