Re: [AGA-mcm] Re: Luto Web-Photo Proposal

["S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com>]

If Jay is willing to do th e work of trying to put
something together, I think we should encourage his
efforts.

This does not mean that we necessarily then change the way
anything on the AGA website works. But if Jay comes up with
something that looks useful, great.

At the same time, I would hate for Jay to spend a lot of
time on a project only to to ultimately find insufficient
acceptance from the Board.

So perhaps what could help is for Jay to undertake a pilot
form of developing his ideas. Something less ambitious than
the full project but that would give the MCM something more
tangible to consider. I don't know if a "pilot" version
would actually be nearly as much work as a full blown
version. Perhaps it is only me, but I'm not so much a
Luddite as a nebbish when it comes to "software" ideas and
have trouble imagining how the idea will actually look/work
in practice or what the maintenance issues might be.

Concerning posible substantial changes/additions to the AGA
website in the past, one issue has been, if we add this
piece are we sure that it will be maintained and by whom?

But I really like the interest Jay is showing here and his
willingness to commit his personal resources (talent and
time). I really like the focus on member/patron impact. And
I like pictures too.

And for the longer term, this could mean offloading some of
the tremedous burden that Erik has been carrying for the
AGA website.

sh

--- Jay Luto <jayluto@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Erik and AGA Board,
> 
> > I am gathering that you see a larger purpose to a
> general "gallery" than
> just the annual convention pictures.  If so, please reply
> with particulars,
> 'cause I think the board was also under the >impression
> we were just talking
> convention pictures.
> 
> My intentions are not to push my luck here but rather
> give constructive
> feedback. I wasn't suggesting full-blown AGA Forum but
> rather invest some
> time on little project - Gallery which could turn out to
> be important, at
> least in my opinion. Newest generation of Aqua Hobbyists
> is very sensitive
> when it comes to visual effects. I see online Communities
> struggling just
> because their Graphic User Interface is not user friendly
> and lacks
> creativity. At the same time the less "messy", the more
> professional. I
> guess one needs to find that balance. People like to see
> pictures, put faces
> with names/nicknames, see aquarium setups and good
> quality photography work.
> Internet is extremely powerful tool and it could become
> very successful if
> used properly. I'm www.njas.net Webmaster and check
> statistics on weekly
> basis. There is always a lot more movement around
> website, which was
> upgraded after my arrival as webmaster, after general
> info or fishroom
> pictures are uploaded.
> 
> What I'm trying to say here is that paper / internet
> advertising strategies
> are equally important nowadays. The more user friendly,
> the better for
> website and AGA organization. Convention Gallery is
> perfectly fine and above
> suggestions are long term ideas !!!
> 
> > However, I don't see a need for a full-blown
> interactive forumish thing at
> this point.   I would think that the "convention picture
> gallery" be made
> entirely with static pages and images at >convention
> time?
> 
> You finished with question mark. Are you still
> considering ?. Please think
> about it.
> 
> I was told that Erik and Board are usually looking for
> detail descriptions
> when it comes to new project especially one which has
> WebSite as main
> subject. I'm not giving up on my ideas, yet. New guy on
> the block doesn't
> mean new and useless ideas :).
> 
> Repetition is a mother of success so I will keep trying.
> 
> Regards,
> Jay Luto
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Erik Olson" <erik@thekrib.com>
> To: "jay luto" <jayluto@hotmail.com>
> Cc: <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 4:27 PM
> Subject: Re: Status
> 
> 
> > Hi Jay,
> >
> > Here is my thinking:  I think that having a nicer
> layout for the
> > convention pictures is a good thing, and something to
> do for this year's
> > convention pictures.
> >
> > However, I don't see a need for a full-blown
> interactive forumish thing at
> > this point.   I would think that the "convention
> picture gallery" be made
> > entirely with static pages and images at convention
> time?
> >
> > I am gathering that you see a larger purpose to a
> general "gallery" than
> > just the annual convention pictures.  If so, please
> reply with
> > particulars, 'cause I think the board was also under
> the impression we
> > were just talking convention pictures.
> >
> > Also, since you're now one of the official "do-ers",
> I'd like to offer you
> > the dubious honor of joining the Advisory Committee
> mailing list, where
> > you'll be forced to hit the delete button more than you
> ever wanted, but
> > will also be able to participate in discussions of this
> sort.  You can't
> > vote, but it's almost as good.
> >
> >    - Erik
> >
> > On Wed, 8 Sep 2004, jay luto wrote:
> >
> > > Erik,
> > >
> > > So what is the status with Gallery ?. Would you be
> interested in new,
> more
> > > "professional" layout (Gallery Software) or you still
> against it :). I
> would
> > > strongly recommend one. I know people said in the
> past that current
> picture
> > > layout is a bit chaotic and this could bring more
> traffic to website as
> well
> > > as help create more interest in online AGA
> shop/books/TAG/membership
> etc. If
> > > we work on it now, we could have that implemented
> before AGA and create
> > > interest. I know you are busy with AGA preparations
> so I wouldn't mind
> taking
> > > initiative. Helping even more.
> > >
> > > Also, how about sending AGA mass email about Coming
> up attraction - new
> > > Gallery. This is not a huge project but it will
> created more traffic
> around
> > > AGA website and whole organization. In that email you
> can also mention
> New
> > > Photographer Position and presence at AGA. Some
> people are interested in
> this
> > > stuff and will definitely spend few minutes browsing
> "around the
> website"
> > > looking for gallery.
> > >
> > > If you guys circulating AGA related emails around the
> AGA Board and you
> need
> > > some help, scream. I'm here and ready to help out.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Jay Luto
> > >
> > >
>
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> >
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