Re: [AGA-mcm] Re: Luto Web-Photo Proposal

[Kathy Olson <kathy@thekrib.com>]

I don't think Jay needs to a "mock up" or do a pilot, it is just when the 
convention is here, put the whole thing together.

I think we all think the help is awesome!!  It is nice to have people 
champion different issues.   I think if there is any cautiousness here it 
is because every year several people offer to do things and then drop the 
ball.  It would really suck to alter the website, poke holes into things 
and then have things not materialize.  Jay-I am not questioning you 
dedication at all, I have only heard excellent things about you for at 
least over a year, so I think everyone is very happy that you have come on 
board and want you to stay.  Any extra help, ideas and enthusiasm is 
greatly appreciated.  Things just sometimes move slow around the AGA, (and 
at my job, and my old job etc).

The other issue is that interactive websites have more security issues, so 
that would be a concern.

No need for Jay to waste his time/effore doing a pilot/or mock up in my 
opinion, just when we get the convention material, go for it, and then we 
can work on a format that is acceptable to the AGA.

That is my 2 cents worth.

Take it or leave it,


Kathy


On Thu, 9 Sep 2004, S. Hieber wrote:

> If Jay is willing to do th e work of trying to put
> something together, I think we should encourage his
> efforts.
>
> This does not mean that we necessarily then change the way
> anything on the AGA website works. But if Jay comes up with
> something that looks useful, great.
>
> At the same time, I would hate for Jay to spend a lot of
> time on a project only to to ultimately find insufficient
> acceptance from the Board.
>
> So perhaps what could help is for Jay to undertake a pilot
> form of developing his ideas. Something less ambitious than
> the full project but that would give the MCM something more
> tangible to consider. I don't know if a "pilot" version
> would actually be nearly as much work as a full blown
> version. Perhaps it is only me, but I'm not so much a
> Luddite as a nebbish when it comes to "software" ideas and
> have trouble imagining how the idea will actually look/work
> in practice or what the maintenance issues might be.
>
> Concerning posible substantial changes/additions to the AGA
> website in the past, one issue has been, if we add this
> piece are we sure that it will be maintained and by whom?
>
> But I really like the interest Jay is showing here and his
> willingness to commit his personal resources (talent and
> time). I really like the focus on member/patron impact. And
> I like pictures too.
>
> And for the longer term, this could mean offloading some of
> the tremedous burden that Erik has been carrying for the
> AGA website.
>
> sh
>
> --- Jay Luto <jayluto@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Erik and AGA Board,
> >
> > > I am gathering that you see a larger purpose to a
> > general "gallery" than
> > just the annual convention pictures.  If so, please reply
> > with particulars,
> > 'cause I think the board was also under the >impression
> > we were just talking
> > convention pictures.
> >
> > My intentions are not to push my luck here but rather
> > give constructive
> > feedback. I wasn't suggesting full-blown AGA Forum but
> > rather invest some
> > time on little project - Gallery which could turn out to
> > be important, at
> > least in my opinion. Newest generation of Aqua Hobbyists
> > is very sensitive
> > when it comes to visual effects. I see online Communities
> > struggling just
> > because their Graphic User Interface is not user friendly
> > and lacks
> > creativity. At the same time the less "messy", the more
> > professional. I
> > guess one needs to find that balance. People like to see
> > pictures, put faces
> > with names/nicknames, see aquarium setups and good
> > quality photography work.
> > Internet is extremely powerful tool and it could become
> > very successful if
> > used properly. I'm www.njas.net Webmaster and check
> > statistics on weekly
> > basis. There is always a lot more movement around
> > website, which was
> > upgraded after my arrival as webmaster, after general
> > info or fishroom
> > pictures are uploaded.
> >
> > What I'm trying to say here is that paper / internet
> > advertising strategies
> > are equally important nowadays. The more user friendly,
> > the better for
> > website and AGA organization. Convention Gallery is
> > perfectly fine and above
> > suggestions are long term ideas !!!
> >
> > > However, I don't see a need for a full-blown
> > interactive forumish thing at
> > this point.   I would think that the "convention picture
> > gallery" be made
> > entirely with static pages and images at >convention
> > time?
> >
> > You finished with question mark. Are you still
> > considering ?. Please think
> > about it.
> >
> > I was told that Erik and Board are usually looking for
> > detail descriptions
> > when it comes to new project especially one which has
> > WebSite as main
> > subject. I'm not giving up on my ideas, yet. New guy on
> > the block doesn't
> > mean new and useless ideas :).
> >
> > Repetition is a mother of success so I will keep trying.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jay Luto
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Erik Olson" <erik@thekrib.com>
> > To: "jay luto" <jayluto@hotmail.com>
> > Cc: <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 4:27 PM
> > Subject: Re: Status
> >
> >
> > > Hi Jay,
> > >
> > > Here is my thinking:  I think that having a nicer
> > layout for the
> > > convention pictures is a good thing, and something to
> > do for this year's
> > > convention pictures.
> > >
> > > However, I don't see a need for a full-blown
> > interactive forumish thing at
> > > this point.   I would think that the "convention
> > picture gallery" be made
> > > entirely with static pages and images at convention
> > time?
> > > I am gathering that you see a larger purpose to a
> > general "gallery" than
> > > just the annual convention pictures.  If so, please
> > reply with
> > > particulars, 'cause I think the board was also under
> > the impression we
> > > were just talking convention pictures.
> > >
> > > Also, since you're now one of the official "do-ers",
> > I'd like to offer you
> > > the dubious honor of joining the Advisory Committee
> > mailing list, where
> > > you'll be forced to hit the delete button more than you
> > ever wanted, but
> > > will also be able to participate in discussions of this
> > sort.  You can't
> > > vote, but it's almost as good.
> > >
> > >    - Erik
> > >
> > > On Wed, 8 Sep 2004, jay luto wrote:
> > >
> > > > Erik,
> > > >
> > > > So what is the status with Gallery ?. Would you be
> > interested in new,
> > more
> > > > "professional" layout (Gallery Software) or you still
> > against it :). I
> > would
> > > > strongly recommend one. I know people said in the
> > past that current
> > picture
> > > > layout is a bit chaotic and this could bring more
> > traffic to website as
> > well
> > > > as help create more interest in online AGA
> > shop/books/TAG/membership
> > etc. If
> > > > we work on it now, we could have that implemented
> > before AGA and create
> > > > interest. I know you are busy with AGA preparations
> > so I wouldn't mind
> > taking
> > > > initiative. Helping even more.
> > > >
> > > > Also, how about sending AGA mass email about Coming
> > up attraction - new
> > > > Gallery. This is not a huge project but it will
> > created more traffic
> > around
> > > > AGA website and whole organization. In that email you
> > can also mention
> > New
> > > > Photographer Position and presence at AGA. Some
> > people are interested in
> > this
> > > > stuff and will definitely spend few minutes browsing
> > "around the
> > website"
> > > > looking for gallery.
> > > >
> > > > If you guys circulating AGA related emails around the
> > AGA Board and you
> > need
> > > > some help, scream. I'm here and ready to help out.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Jay Luto
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