Re: [AGA-mcm] Potential issue

["Karen Randall" <krandall@rdrcpa.biz>]

There are definite language barriers, even with a translator, and more
importantly, there are cultural barriers in terms of the WAY things are
communicated.  Believe me, both Cheryl and I know how frustrating it can be.
We have to sort things out for the magazine 4 times a year.<g>

Frustrating as it is, I still think it's important for _us_ to go the extra
mile, since he is our guest.

Karen

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sean Murphy" <seancmurphy@hotmail.com>
To: <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 12:46 AM
Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] Potential issue


> Believe it, I tried for 8 months to get a list of plants from them (ADA).
> I'm not all that excited anymore after the lack of response my inquiries
> received. Every email requested a list of prefered plants, I finally got a
> question back, "what plants would be avaialble?"  Duh, I've been asking
what
> they want, a friggen draft of a list 3 or 4 months ago would have been
> helpful.  Even after that I asked what they want and the reply was "what
> would be available?"
>
> Sorry, venting,
>
> Sean
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: Ghazanfar Ghori <GhoriG@gmail.com>
> Reply-To: AGA Advisory Committee <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> To: AGA Advisory Committee <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] Potential issue
> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 19:21:43 -0700
>
>  > We've warned the convention committee about this a number of times from
> past
>  > experience.  Amano is VERY particular about the plants he uses for his
>  > aquascapes.  I know some of the GWAPA people mentioned supplying him
with
>  > their cuttings, but you don't pay to bring someone like Amano all the
way
>  > from Japan, and then tell him how to do his job.  Amano aquascapes
>  > completely dry.  It would be close to impossible to do this with
> submersed
>  > foliage without a tremendous amount of damage.
>
> ..and this presents no problem what so ever. We thought he'd want to use
> some plants that are normally not available through conventional means,
> and thats why we offered up our cuttings - we were not trying to save
> a dime here and there. We've got plants here within GWAPA that only a
> handful of people in the US have. If he wants to use the regular
> stuff - that's fine with us, and we'll gladly provide them. It's good in a
> way,
> he'll aquascape with the bread and butter plants - it'll encourage
> people - show them you do not need have access to rare plants to
> scape well.
>
> BTW - did you guys read through the plant list? Almost sounds like
> a list of plants an 'American' scape would consist of.
>
> FYI - we tried numerous times to obtain a list of plants that Amano would
> like to use, equipment that he would need etc - all to no avail.
> Finally, through
> Tomoko, we were able to get a response to our queries.
>
>
>  > > I don't know all the details but why did we "allow" Amano and Jeff
>  > equipment
>  > > exchange? I could only imagine all the profits from Amano tank sale.
I
> bet
>  > > huge percentage of people is ready to make a dent in their budget
just
> to
>  > > get Amano setup.
>
> Jay - there's a business deal between Jeff and Amano. He's bringing the
> equipment at his cost - it's up to him what he wants to do with it
> after the demo. We cannot force him to donate those items.
>
>  > I'd also like to point out the dichotomy between these two "issues".
On
> the
>  > one hand, we're griping that someone else got Amano to ship incredibly
>  > heavy, expensive stuff all the way here from Japan, and on the other,
> we're
>  > nickle and diming about the plants he has asked us to provide for the
> demo.
>
> No one is 'nickle and diming' about the plants. That said, I beleive, a
> sizable
> portion of the revenues from the auction were due to FANs generous
donation
> of plants last year. The plants we're getting for Amano, hopfully through
> FAN,
> should end up in the auction and not anywhere else.
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