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Re: [AGA-mcm] AGA2K4 Feedback Summary



Certainly I would have LOVED to spend that much time if we had been either the only thing at the banquet, or the last thing of the night.

I like the idea of having the announcements and a separate focus group with judges, but hate the idea of a Friday night announcement, because (a) not everyone's here yet, and (b) it's one LESS thing to feature as part of the banquet. Hey, maybe there could be a discussion Sunday morning (where we had the traditional "panel") while everyone's setting up the auction...

  - Erik

On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, S. Hieber wrote:

IF we do the awards as a distinct event, we can spend as
long as necessary to cover them -- anyone not interested
needn't attend or stay if they get bored.

When it's the lead for something like Amano, folks don't
want to leave and risk missing part of Amano's presentation
even if they are bored with the awards -- although, I can't
really understand how anyone interested in growing plants
could be bored with the contest :-\

sh
--- Karen Randall <krandall@rdrcpa.biz> wrote:

Well, at least Ghazanfar can take comfort in the
knowledge that he was
fairly even handed in his criticizm of all of us.<g>
Personally, I've never
seen, read or heard Ghazanfar be rude to anyone.  It
doesn't seem to be his
style.

And I did try to hand the microphone to other people ;-)

On the length of the awards, I had a thought... Some
people obviously WANT
to learn more about aquascaping through the judges'
comments, while others
have little or no interest.  What about: Do the awards
Friday night, and
kept it to the bare minimum... maybe not even have the
judges up there, but
have Erik read some comments as he has some times in the
past.  Then have
one of the focus groups be a chance to go into more
detail on the tanks with
the judges in a small, informal setting where people can
ask more in-depth
questions.

Karen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Erik Olson" <erik@thekrib.com>
To: "AGA Advisory Committee" <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 12:27 AM
Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] AGA2K4 Feedback Summary


On Sun, 21 Nov 2004, Ghazanfar Ghori wrote:

"The rude and unnecessary remarks to attendees by
Ghori during
registration and the auction check out. He may have
worked hard but
his efforts were generally failures and his attitude
and actions were
extremely un-welcoming. "

That criticism came from Leon Garden, not anonymous, so
you could always
send him your picture and ask if he got the wrong
person. :)  Leon has
been to many, if not all, of the AGA conventions over
the years.

In terms of personal criticism, this one hit me the
hardest:

"During the announcements of the awards, the speaker
rudely ran ahead at
his own pace without letting the judges say what they
wanted to say, with
the exception of perhaps one judge who seemed to have
the microphone the
majority of the time. "

Granted the person had no idea the reason I was doing
this was to keep the
awards "announcements" to the 30 minute slot we had
planned instead of the
52 minutes it eventually ran once everyone had their
say, but hey, maybe
they didn't see the previous years where I was able to
keep the judges
better corralled.  But I'll sure be trying to have
printouts next time,
and having a little huddle with the judges beforehand.
Or not, as some
(like Scott) felt it was the "best discussion" on the
winners yet.

   - Erik

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