Re: [AGA-mcm] AGA2K4 Feedback Summary

["Karen Randall" <krandall@rdrcpa.biz>]

That might work.  Of course, this is all predicated on several of the judges
BEING there.

Karen

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Erik Olson" <erik@thekrib.com>
To: "AGA Advisory Committee" <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] AGA2K4 Feedback Summary


> Certainly I would have LOVED to spend that much time if we had been either
> the only thing at the banquet, or the last thing of the night.
>
> I like the idea of having the announcements and a separate focus group
> with judges, but hate the idea of a Friday night announcement, because (a)
> not everyone's here yet, and (b) it's one LESS thing to feature as part of
> the banquet.  Hey, maybe there could be a discussion Sunday morning (where
> we had the traditional "panel") while everyone's setting up the auction...
>
>    - Erik
>
> On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, S. Hieber wrote:
>
> > IF we do the awards as a distinct event, we can spend as
> > long as necessary to cover them -- anyone not interested
> > needn't attend or stay if they get bored.
> >
> > When it's the lead for something like Amano, folks don't
> > want to leave and risk missing part of Amano's presentation
> > even if they are bored with the awards -- although, I can't
> > really understand how anyone interested in growing plants
> > could be bored with the contest :-\
> >
> > sh
> > --- Karen Randall <krandall@rdrcpa.biz> wrote:
> >
> >> Well, at least Ghazanfar can take comfort in the
> >> knowledge that he was
> >> fairly even handed in his criticizm of all of us.<g>
> >> Personally, I've never
> >> seen, read or heard Ghazanfar be rude to anyone.  It
> >> doesn't seem to be his
> >> style.
> >>
> >> And I did try to hand the microphone to other people ;-)
> >>
> >> On the length of the awards, I had a thought... Some
> >> people obviously WANT
> >> to learn more about aquascaping through the judges'
> >> comments, while others
> >> have little or no interest.  What about: Do the awards
> >> Friday night, and
> >> kept it to the bare minimum... maybe not even have the
> >> judges up there, but
> >> have Erik read some comments as he has some times in the
> >> past.  Then have
> >> one of the focus groups be a chance to go into more
> >> detail on the tanks with
> >> the judges in a small, informal setting where people can
> >> ask more in-depth
> >> questions.
> >>
> >> Karen
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Erik Olson" <erik@thekrib.com>
> >> To: "AGA Advisory Committee" <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> >> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 12:27 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] AGA2K4 Feedback Summary
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Sun, 21 Nov 2004, Ghazanfar Ghori wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> "The rude and unnecessary remarks to attendees by
> >> Ghori during
> >>>> registration and the auction check out. He may have
> >> worked hard but
> >>>> his efforts were generally failures and his attitude
> >> and actions were
> >>>> extremely un-welcoming. "
> >>>
> >>> That criticism came from Leon Garden, not anonymous, so
> >> you could always
> >>> send him your picture and ask if he got the wrong
> >> person. :)  Leon has
> >>> been to many, if not all, of the AGA conventions over
> >> the years.
> >>>
> >>> In terms of personal criticism, this one hit me the
> >> hardest:
> >>>
> >>> "During the announcements of the awards, the speaker
> >> rudely ran ahead at
> >>> his own pace without letting the judges say what they
> >> wanted to say, with
> >>> the exception of perhaps one judge who seemed to have
> >> the microphone the
> >>> majority of the time. "
> >>>
> >>> Granted the person had no idea the reason I was doing
> >> this was to keep the
> >>> awards "announcements" to the 30 minute slot we had
> >> planned instead of the
> >>> 52 minutes it eventually ran once everyone had their
> >> say, but hey, maybe
> >>> they didn't see the previous years where I was able to
> >> keep the judges
> >>> better corralled.  But I'll sure be trying to have
> >> printouts next time,
> >>> and having a little huddle with the judges beforehand.
> >> Or not, as some
> >>> (like Scott) felt it was the "best discussion" on the
> >> winners yet.
> >>>
> >>>    - Erik
> >>>
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