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Re: [AGA-mcm] Fwd: Re: The so-called "Bid Doc" -- aka the "AGA_Convention_Host_Proposal_Requirements_and_Guidelines_ver_4a"



It's hard to read Dave's message because it's in code (that nobody can decipher). Typical Dave-speak. You can get very little of value from an e-mail conversation with him; it's hard to say whether he's being "wheeling and dealing" Dave, "seriously committed to the hobby" Dave, or if he's "nobody likes me" Dave. My suggestion would be if Karen is up for it, to talk with him a little again & find out where his head is. He's been "burned" by the AGA (at least in his mind) a few times.

FYI, I talked to a friend of mine in the San Jose area and he thinks Monterey would be a bad choice as none of the locals would show -- they'd be much better off getting something, say, in the SJ area near the airport which could be significantly cheaper, and renting buses. The $100 rooms cinches that to me.

  - Erik

On Mon, 3 Jan 2005, S. Hieber wrote:

Okay, maybe I'm just not in the right mood read this -- I
guess I'm not sure how to read this. I'd say that it's a
little less enthusiasm than I would expect from a
prospective Convention Chair, suggesting something more
like some sort of ancillary role, at least unless there are
some assurances -- but assurances from whom? Beats me.

I don't know what he means by "speculation." Is he looking
for a piece of the action? To be hired to put together a
proposal? Or does he want approval to host before a
Proposal gets prepared?

Dave got the Reqs & Guidelines doc along with Tom and four
or five others, so it's not like sending it to him put the
touch on him to lead.


It's like he's in but not quite; out but not quite.

At any rate, I suppose the parties interested in pursuing
hosting the convention should sort out who is going to be
lead, organize, and move the efforts as a cohering and
directed project. But then, I always thought, "who's in
charge" in that sense generally is an obvious sort of
thing, not something to be discovered.

sh


--- Dave Gomberg <gomberg1@wcf.com> wrote:

Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 13:04:34 -0800
To: "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com>
From: Dave Gomberg <gomberg1@wcf.com>
Subject: Re: The so-called "Bid Doc" -- aka the


"AGA_Convention_Host_Proposal_Requirements_and_Guidelines_ver_4a"

Hi, Scott, and thanks for the bid notes.

I view my role as to aid the AGA should it elect to
support a local bid.

The effort to fill in the bid form is many times as much
work as I am
willing to do on speculation.

If you should elect me to put together a team to run the
convention I
believe you will be pleased with the results.  But I do
not have a ton of
time to put in on the effort without any assurance it is
useful to anyone.

FWIW, I think a Monterey convention (the Bay Area site I
recommend) would
cost about $100 per room night (single or double) and $30
per meal and $30
for reg costs.   That would include airport
transportation.

I have not checked things out enough to tell you for sure
what venue I
would use, I would have to go spend a couple of days in
Monterey to do that.



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