Re: [AGA-mcm] Fwd: Re: The so-called "Bid Doc" -- aka the "AGA_Convention_Host_Proposal_Requirements_and_Guidelines_ver_4a"

["S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com>]

Thnkas, that helps to put spome perspective on the
enigmatic text.

I think at best there are mixed signals about Monterey. My
own view of the area (I lived in CA from '58 - '82) would
be mixed at best, also.

Since most of the convention weeked is spent in the hotel,
proximity to an airport is maybe more important than the
geographical "ambience". Any highways would be tough to
travel on the coast of CA, so that probably should factor
into Field Trips.

Heck, I'd sooner spend a weekend in Arcata as Monterey. Not
that I'm preparing a proposal -- I'd have to see if it's
worth the trouble first ;-)

sh


--- Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com> wrote:

> It's hard to read Dave's message because it's in code
> (that nobody can 
> decipher). Typical Dave-speak.  You can get very little
> of value from an 
> e-mail conversation with him; it's hard to say whether
> he's being 
> "wheeling and dealing" Dave, "seriously committed to the
> hobby" Dave, or 
> if he's "nobody likes me" Dave.  My suggestion would be
> if Karen is up for 
> it, to talk with him a little again & find out where his
> head is.  He's 
> been "burned" by the AGA (at least in his mind) a few
> times.
> 
> FYI, I talked to a friend of mine in the San Jose area
> and he thinks 
> Monterey would be a bad choice as none of the locals
> would show -- they'd 
> be much better off getting something, say, in the SJ area
> near the airport 
> which could be significantly cheaper, and renting buses. 
> The $100 rooms 
> cinches that to me.
> 
>    - Erik
> 
> On Mon, 3 Jan 2005, S. Hieber wrote:
> 
> > Okay, maybe I'm just not in the right mood read this --
> I
> > guess I'm not sure how to read this. I'd say that it's
> a
> > little less enthusiasm than I would expect from a
> > prospective Convention Chair, suggesting something more
> > like some sort of ancillary role, at least unless there
> are
> > some assurances -- but assurances from whom? Beats me.
> >
> > I don't know what he means by "speculation." Is he
> looking
> > for a piece of the action? To be hired to put together
> a
> > proposal? Or does he want approval to host before a
> > Proposal gets prepared?
> >
> > Dave got the Reqs & Guidelines doc along with Tom and
> four
> > or five others, so it's not like sending it to him put
> the
> > touch on him to lead.
> >
> >
> > It's like he's in but not quite; out but not quite.
> >
> > At any rate, I suppose the parties interested in
> pursuing
> > hosting the convention should sort out who is going to
> be
> > lead, organize, and move the efforts as a cohering and
> > directed project. But then, I always thought, "who's in
> > charge" in that sense generally is an obvious sort of
> > thing, not something to be discovered.
> >
> > sh
> >
> >
> > --- Dave Gomberg <gomberg1@wcf.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 13:04:34 -0800
> >> To: "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com>
> >> From: Dave Gomberg <gomberg1@wcf.com>
> >> Subject: Re: The so-called "Bid Doc" -- aka the
> >>
> >>
> >
>
"AGA_Convention_Host_Proposal_Requirements_and_Guidelines_ver_4a"
> >>
> >> Hi, Scott, and thanks for the bid notes.
> >>
> >> I view my role as to aid the AGA should it elect to
> >> support a local bid.
> >>
> >> The effort to fill in the bid form is many times as
> much
> >> work as I am
> >> willing to do on speculation.
> >>
> >> If you should elect me to put together a team to run
> the
> >> convention I
> >> believe you will be pleased with the results.  But I
> do
> >> not have a ton of
> >> time to put in on the effort without any assurance it
> is
> >> useful to anyone.
> >>
> >> FWIW, I think a Monterey convention (the Bay Area site
> I
> >> recommend) would
> >> cost about $100 per room night (single or double) and
> $30
> >> per meal and $30
> >> for reg costs.   That would include airport
> >> transportation.
> >>
> >> I have not checked things out enough to tell you for
> sure
> >> what venue I
> >> would use, I would have to go spend a couple of days
> in
> >> Monterey to do that.
> >>
> >>
> >>
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