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Re: [AGA-mcm] TAG archive CD/DVD
- To: AGA Advisory Committee <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
- Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] TAG archive CD/DVD
- From: "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com>
- Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:24:50 -0800 (PST)
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If printing, I would suppose that most folks aren't going
to get the kind of print quality we get from the pro
printer even if printing a photograph of a page. So I'd say
go 1 to 1, but that's the only reason. I know you have a
good eye for transcribed/recoded material.
sh
--- Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com> wrote:
> To me it's a matter of whether the PDF is meant to be
> viewed or printed.
> In this archive, it's meant for PRINT only. For viewing,
> we've got the
> jpegs+html with the nice navigation.
>
> - Erik
>
> On Mon, 17 Jan 2005, Larry Lampert wrote:
>
> > I am no Adobe expert by any means but I would think it
> > would be best to have one tag page per PDF page since
> > you can change your page view to view 2 or more pages
> > at a time in Acrobat. You can also zoom in so you
> > could go the other way with a 2 up format, but this
> > seems to be most convenient.
> >
> > Larry
> > --- Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I might send out some disks for people to beta-test.
> >> Since I'm home with
> >> Markus (no daycare on MLK Day), I've got most of the
> >> TAGs scanned already!
> >>
> >> Here's a question: Do you think it would make sense
> >> having one "TAG page"
> >> per PDF page, or do 2 side-by-side "TAG Pages" for
> >> each PDF page?
> >>
> >> - Erik
> >>
> >> On Mon, 17 Jan 2005, Larry Lampert wrote:
> >>
> >>> Me too. I want a DVD as soon as they are
> >> available!
> >>>
> >>> Larry
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I'm sold.
> >>>> sh
> >>>> --- Karen Randall <krandall@rdrcpa.biz> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I can't think of anything to change!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Karen
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> From: "Erik Olson" <erik@thekrib.com>
> >>>>> To: <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 10:35 AM
> >>>>> Subject: [AGA-mcm] TAG archive CD/DVD
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sun, 16 Jan 2005, Phil Edwards wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Ah, I missed the point! I didn't know it was
> >> a
> >>>> CD
> >>>>> until AFTER I posted
> >>>>>>> that. It's going to have all the articles on
> >>>> the CD,
> >>>>> isn't it?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> My beanie's not up to speed yet. I'll catch
> >> up
> >>>> to
> >>>>> formation soon....:)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> No worries -- it's been quite a while since the
> >>>> AGA
> >>>>> talked of this
> >>>>>> archive. In fact, I beleive that was around
> >> the
> >>>> time I
> >>>>> was calling you on
> >>>>>> a cellphone in the middle of the 2002 banquet
> >> so
> >>>> your
> >>>>> local party would
> >>>>>> know the aquascaping contest was now open. So
> >>>> it
> >>>>> probably would have been
> >>>>>> worthwhile to recap the proposal to start.
> >>>> Here's the
> >>>>> "latest",
> >>>>>> incorporating yesterday's talk:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 1. This is a CD-ROM containing
> >>>>>> a. the "prehistorical" issues Vol 1-3, never
> >>>> available
> >>>>> as back issues
> >>>>>> b. all of Neil's and Mary's issues, now
> >>>> out-of-print
> >>>>>> c. my one-shot issue, even though it's still
> >>>> for sale
> >>>>> (just 'cause
> >>>>>> it closes out the black-n-white era)
> >>>>>> d. the out-of-print PAM's? [New Idea]
> >>>>>> d. Indexes and cross-references for ALL issues
> >>>> of TAG
> >>>>> and PAM as
> >>>>>> of date of release
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2. Technical details on the pages themselves:
> >>>> 100 dpi
> >>>>> resamples of each
> >>>>>> page, saved as reasonably-high quality jpegs,
> >>>> with HTML
> >>>>> pages surrounding
> >>>>>> them for navigation. The pages are NOT turned
> >>>> back
> >>>>> into text, and thus
> >>>>>> not searchable. We're relying on the indexes
> >>>> for this.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 3. For issues not included in the archive
> >>>> (i.e.,
> >>>>> everything available for
> >>>>>> purchase!), have something on its contents page
> >>>> that
> >>>>> says "this back-issue
> >>>>>> is available for purchase" with a back-link to
> >>>> the
> >>>>> website. [New Idea]
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 4. Also release DVD-ROM version that also
> >>>> contains 300
> >>>>> dpi printable PDFs
> >>>>>> (but again, based on JPEG images, not on
> >>>> original
> >>>>> text). [New Idea]
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 5. The AGA Website already contains (today!) a
> >>>>> significantly scaled-down
> >>>>>> version of the archive
> >>>>> (www.aquatic-gardeners.org/TAGIndex):
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> a. It's integrated into the main website and
> >>>>> incorporates its
> >>>>>> style sheets, etc
> >>>>>> b. No actual articles hosted on the website,
> >>>> just
> >>>>> indexes,
> >>>>>> covers, and tables of contents
> >>>>>> c. Website version will be modified to have
> >> the
> >>>> TOC's
> >>>>> report
> >>>>>> "This issue is available as part of our
> >> back
> >>>> issue
> >>>>> CD-ROM"
> >>>>>> or "This issue is available for individual
> >>>>> purchase" with
> >>>>>> appropriate linkes [New Idea]
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 6. Pricing: I propose $25 for the DVD-ROM and
> >>>> $20 for
> >>>>> the CD-ROM,
> >>>>>> with a $5 hike for non-members or people
> >> out
> >>>> of the
> >>>>> country. CD's
> >>>>>> and DVD's are very cheap to ship.
> >>>> Domestically,
> >>>>> it's about a
> >>>>>> buck-o-five (actually buck-o-six, but they
> >>>> didn't
> >>>>> write a song about
> >>>>>> that in Team America). Foreign is
> >>>> $2.50-3.50, and
> >>>>> I have to go down
> >>>>>> to the Post Office. But I kinda like the
> >>>> idea of
> >>>>> giving the foreign
> >>>>>> nonmembers a break and not penalizing them
> >>>> twice.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 7. Why it's not going to happen today, and
> >>>> might not
> >>>>> happen for another
> >>>>>> 6-12 months:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> a. Need to rescan TAG v.4-10 as originals lost
> >>>> in a
> >>>>> hard drive
> >>>>>> crash in 2000 before backup. Cheryl just
> >>>> mailed me
> >>>>> a nicer
> >>>>>> set that has the real covers for the first
> >>>> year and
> >>>>> doesn't
> >>>>>> have my home address pasted on the back.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> b. Program mods to implement the new ideas,
> >> and
> >>>> split
> >>>>> out the
> >>>>>> author index alphabetically. Also need
> >> icon
> >>>> for
> >>>>> subject index.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> c. baby #2 is due March 1st.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So I guess I'd like to see feedback on the
> >>>> modified
> >>>>> proposal so it can be
> >>>>>> brought to a vote & maybe finished in the next
> >>>> month.
> >>>>> But if it's a year
> >>>>>> from now, at least it's official.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> - Erik
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Erik Olson
> >>
> > === message truncated ===
> >
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