Re: [AGA-mcm] Fwd: Re: What's cookin in Indiana

["S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com>]

Don't mistake me. I wasn't criticizing the components, and
I was using "database" in a loose vernacular, like "info
system" "computer info thing.". If I say I would like to
see the sedan in blue, it doesn't mean I think the red one
was not designed satisfactorily.

Last time we discussed this sort of thing, I came away with
the impression that info was recorded for diff purposes
than what I was fishing for -- tenure, rollover, maybe some
geographics if not demographics.

Basically, what I envision is a list of everyone that has
joined AGA and their name never comes off the list -- it's
a lasting universal truth that they joined AGA at some time
or other. For each name there is a list of the months that
they have been members, regardless of whether the months
are consecutive. This seems to me a diff thing than a list
of current members and how long they have signed up for,
which is what I thought the current info system recorded --
I'm not complaining the red is a bad color of sedan, just
that personally, I'd like to see something in a blue. But
I'll be the first to admit that I don't know diddly do
about info systems. And I have no idea how much work is
involved or whether it's worth the effort jsut to distill a
few "facts."

sh, who thinks theKrib is still the king.
--- Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com> wrote:

> Hey, it's not a matter of the database, it's a matter of
> the front end.
> What's going on is that about a week ago I upgraded
> pulcher (aka the krib, 
> aka aquatic-gardeners.org, etc) to a new version of the
> OS, and 
> coincidentally also needed to update the web front-end
> for the database (a 
> program called "DaDaBiK") for the first time in like 2+
> years.
> 
> Theoretically, I CAN produce a report showing the
> distribution of member 
> months.  Probably will too, just to be obstinate.
> 
>    - Erik
> 
> On Tue, 28 Jun 2005, S. Hieber wrote:
> 
> > Ah! I'm hearing you say, "That functionality is
> > under-implemented in the current configuration."
> >
> > I don't think the database supports that kind of
> analysis
> > -- I just like to ask for it every 5 or six months in
> case
> > some weird change in conditions makes it suddenly
> possible.
> >
> > Ho well, there also are things the financial records
> can't
> > tell us. Working with data is making leaps of faith
> over
> > holes in the info.
> >
> > Thanks for getting me Indianans info so quickly.
> > "Indianans." That word just doesn't look right does it.
> But
> > the alternative is "Indianians" which looks even more
> > redundandant. And I can't bring myself to call grown-up
> > adult people "Hoosiers." It sounds like something from
> a
> > Dashiell Hammett detective story -- "Then this hoosier
> > comes in and tried to sap me with a blackjack but I
> > coldcocked him with a left, which spunhim around and
> > introduced his face to the floorboards."
> >
> > Yeah, I know. Your message was more elegant.
> >
> > sh
> > --- Cheryl Rogers <cheryl@rightstuffwebsites.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> no. bite me.
> >>
> >> S. Hieber wrote:
> >>> Hey, you're starting to have fun with data. You might
> >> be
> >>> getting a copter beanie for Christmas.
> >>>
> >>> I would like to know the distribution of tenure. xx%
> >> are
> >>> members for only 1 year. yy% are members for 2 yr.s .
> .
> >> .
> >>> zz% are members for 30 yr.s
> >>>
> >>> Can we get that?
> >>>
> >>> sh
> >>>
> >>> --- Cheryl Rogers <cheryl@rightstuffwebsites.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> THANKS! I wish I had known how easy it was to
> display
> >>>> fields on the
> >>>> results page. I can really go to town with this.
> C'mon,
> >>>> somebody quiz
> >>>> me, who wants to know all the members who expired in
> >> 2003
> >>>> with the last
> >>>> name containing the letter z with a zip code of 574
> and
> >>>> have an e-mail
> >>>> address on file?
> >>>>
> >>>> If I wasn't so darn whipped tonight, I would jump up
> >> and
> >>>> down.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
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