Re: [AGA-mcm] Juggling

[Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com>]

I look at it a little different: What we'd be offering DFWAPC is the 
opportinity for professionally printed copies of their article that they 
could ALSO hand out at their events, without having to fork over the whole 
$2000 to get it done.  So if they were able to kick in $500, they'd get 
250 booklets.  You've done all the work in the layout to make the booklet 
as much DFWAPC's "own" as the AGA's.  They might appreciate having a bunch 
of copies.

A little different than, say, asking a company like Seachem to sponsor it, 
where the goal is logo exposure only.

  - Erik

On Tue, 12 Jul 2005, Cheryl Rogers wrote:

> They might. But this is where it gets sticky. Ben wrote the article FOR 
> DFWAPC. WE offer to publish the thing and hand it out at OUR events, then we 
> want them to pay for it. Doesn't sound right.
>
> But I agree that it simply MUST be done somehow.
>
> Cheryl
>
>
> Erik Olson wrote:
> > Ooh, Shawn Van Doren has one of those laser printers -- she used to use it 
> > for doing The Fish Flash every month.  I can go ask.
> >
> > I really want to do this.  This is something very cool, helps new folks, 
> > clearly falls under our mission statements & all that.  Even promotes the 
> > AGA.  But the $2k price tag is a real setback with only a week to go...
> >
> > Hey, any chance DFWAPC might kick in $500 for 1/4 of the copies?
> >
> >   - Erik
> >
> > On Tue, 12 Jul 2005, Larry Lampert wrote:
> >
> > > I really liked it (Sans the hey its Larry :-)). It is
> > > comprhensive and well written and the layout just
> > > plain rocks!
> > >
> > > I like the idea of giving this out. I just think there
> > > has to be some way of doing it for less than $2000.
> > >
> > > What if we bought Cheryl an inexpensive @$500 color
> > > laser. I have a Minolta QMS Magicolor 2300 in my
> > > office that does an OK job. It is not a real four
> > > color press by any means, but it is a color laser.
> > >
> > > For those who don't know the main advanatage of Laser
> > > over inkjet is not quality or cost but rather the fact
> > > that the ink is fused into the paper so that it will
> > > not bleed under moisture. SOmething fish shows are
> > > known for .
> > >
> > > This is just an idea and it would still be expensive
> > > when you add toner and paper but in the long run it
> > > might be worth considering. I am not really sure but
> > > that is all I can think of.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Larry
> > >
> > > --- Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Everyone else seems mighty silent on this issue....
> > > > especially Mr Budget.
> > > > Hello?
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 11 Jul 2005, Cheryl Rogers wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I thought about that. But it would have to happen
> > > >
> > > > in in about three days and
> > > >
> > > > > that's an awful lot of hurry-up. We have 9 days
> > > >
> > > > for must-be-in-my-hands
> > > >
> > > > > final.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheryl
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Erik Olson wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > It's beautiful!  Really nice design.  But it's
> > > >
> > > > also very $2000.  I supose
> > > >
> > > > > > the ACA-isms like "Look It's Larry" would have to
> > > >
> > > > be removed for a mass
> > > >
> > > > > > printing.  I'm torn here, because it seems that
> > > >
> > > > if we pay this much, we
> > > >
> > > > > > should not have it a free publication.  I'm also
> > > >
> > > > torn, because I also know
> > > >
> > > > > > how much effort it takes to inkjet this stuff.
> > > >
> > > > Any chance we could knock
> > > >
> > > > > > off a few hundred bucks by getting a sponsor or
> > > >
> > > > two (splat a corporate logo
> > > >
> > > > > > on the back)?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   - Erik
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, 11 Jul 2005, Cheryl Rogers wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am willing to just go get some paper and ink
> > > >
> > > > cartridges and print some
> > > >
> > > > > > > here.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > BUT to get 1,000 of them professionally printed
> > > >
> > > > THIS WEEK would be about
> > > >
> > > > > > > $2000. I talked to Karen on the phone as she is
> > > >
> > > > e-mail-less tonight, and
> > > >
> > > > > > > she says to tell you guys that she thinks it
> > > >
> > > > would be worth it. She has an
> > > >
> > > > > > > upcoming event where she can hand them out at
> > > >
> > > > the beginning of August. A
> > > >
> > > > > > > publication of this sort has "legs" and would be
> > > >
> > > > goos for a very long
> > > >
> > > > > > > time.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Here's what we're talking about. It's not final,
> > > >
> > > > but it's close.
> > > >
> > > > > > > http://www.rightstuffwebsites.com/TheBasics.pdf
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheryl
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Karen Randall wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Why don't we see if DFW would like to do a
> > > >
> > > > "share" deal?  What if AGA
> > > >
> > > > > > > > provides photos to go with it (if Ben hasn't
> > > >
> > > > already) and picks up the
> > > >
> > > > > > > > printing costs?  I'm sure we could use them at
> > > >
> > > > other events as well. Then
> > > >
> > > > > > > > ask Ben if we can post it on the AGA web site
> > > >
> > > > also as a "how to get
> > > >
> > > > > > > > started" article.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Karen
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cheryl
> > > >
> > > > Rogers"
> > > >
> > > > > > > > <cheryl@rightstuffwebsites.com>
> > > > > > > > To: "AGA Advisory Committee"
> > > >
> > > > <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> > > >
> > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 11:48 AM
> > > > > > > > Subject: [AGA-mcm] Juggling
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Well, if y'all didn't know that I was helping
> > > >
> > > > Erik a little with the AGA
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > web site, then maybe you didn't know either
> > > >
> > > > that I was helping Ricky
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > with the DFWAPC web site.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Double parenthood caught up with him, too,
> > > >
> > > > Erik, but he got slammed with
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > both kids at once.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So I've been updating the articles section and
> > > >
> > > > one of the upcoming
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > articles is by Ben Belton. He has been working
> > > >
> > > > on an article called The
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > Basics. It has been "almost finished" for
> > > >
> > > > about a year. I had read bits
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > and pieces, but since he wasn't done with it,
> > > >
> > > > I didn't bother to read
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > the whole thing. I didn't want to mess him up
> > > >
> > > > by mucking with the files.
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > When I found out that were were going to have
> > > >
> > > > a table at ACA, I thought,
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > you know, this is a great article for newbies.
> > > >
> > > > I wonder if I could
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > reformat it and print it for the fish-folk at
> > > >
> > > > ACA?
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > Just as I was finishing that, the new TAG came
> > > >
> > > > to my mailbox and <smacks
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > forehead!> there's an article by Scott that I
> > > >
> > > > didn't even know was in
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > the works COVERING THE SAME TOPICS! And with
> > > >
> > > > mostly the same opinions.
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > I feel so conflicted. Does anyone have a
> > > >
> > > > problem with us handing out
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > Ben's article at the ACA/AGA/DFWAPC table,
> > > >
> > > > knowing that an article will
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > be published in TAG the next month?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Cheryl
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