Re: [AGA-mcm] Fwd: SFBAAPS: AGA Program Proposal (fwd)

["S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com>]

Now not only can I not afford to go; I can't catch my
breath if I get there. No, seriously, looks like a lot of
hard thought went into this. I would like to give some more
detailed and helpful comments by tommorrow afternoon, after
I have had a chance to digest this.

But briefly:

Too much stuff and not enough time between for shmoozing.

Nothing will happen well on Sunday but the Auction -- if
there's too much activity for Fri and Sat, then maybe move
the stuff to Thurs -- but 4-day events are very tiring.

The auction should start as early as reasonable-- it
greatly affects the financial results and by 1:00 or 2:00pm
all the good buyers are gone. So the later it saterts, the
less revenue, which means the higher ticket prices need to
be to assure a breakeven.

What will the "aquarium plant community spots" present?
Will they just get up and wing it? Will they be sales
pitches? Looks like commerical vendors mainly--will they be
commericals--if so, maybe they should present in the vendor
room?

Are they considering Kingfish?

How will they know how many vans to rent if they don't
prebook fares? (don't forget insurance)

I assume the 2 hour ride is if nothing goes wrong? No
traffic problems? Is there some slack built into that.

Yes, location location location -- it will determine costs
and prices and attendance as much or more than any other
factor. Are they still considering outside of SF for lower
hotel prices?

Should these notes be sent to conheads? Instead of MCM?

Anyone know if more than one aquatic hobby convention is
planned for the SF area in over the next 12 months?

sh

--- Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com> wrote:

> Here's Jim's proposed schedule (that apparently got
> leaked into APC back 
> in April -- great).  I am still gently pushing him to
> worry about the 
> hotel contract instead (but have also critiqued a few
> items, such as the 
> frenetic pace of the talks).
> 
>    - Erik
> 
> -- 
> Erik Olson
> erik at thekrib dot com
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2005 13:44:21 -0400
> From: jiml1029@aol.com
> To: erik@thekrib.com
> Subject: Fwd: SFBAAPS: AGA Program Proposal
> 
> Erik,
> 
> this is the proposed conference program I put together.
> 
> Some of the feedback was to include Monterey Bay Aquarium
> trip (2hrs each way from SF) (Dave G.). Dave also
> suggested we drop Sunday Panel discussion.
> 
> Also suggested was a earlier get-together for folks
> taking the field trips , and also starting the field
> trips earlier.
> 
> At the OH on this Sun, we got a good turnout ~25 people.
> Talked with Jeff about restarting the Hotel search, but
> did not get the chance to talk with Dave, as he did not
> manage to make the second part of the day at Aqua Forest.
> 
> Aqua Forest Aquarium is outstanding. They carry the ADA
> line and some less hi-end but good quality products.
> Their display aquariums are great. They have not so far
> used water column fertilization, and are having very
> quick success with the Aquasoil and Amazonica substrate.
> Great plant selection, pricey, but expected that. The
> store is very nicely set up, like the pictures I've seen
> of stores in Japan. George the owner has visited ADA, and
> he has a picture up of his entry from ADA 2004
> competition, which placed 64th. I hope they are very
> successful.
> 
> Jim.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jiml1029@aol.com
> To: sfbaaps@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:58:27 -0400
> Subject: SFBAAPS: AGA Program Proposal
> 
> 
> 
> All,
> 
> As discussed at the last OH, we badly need to put a
> program together for the
> conference. I've  incorporated suggestions  from the
> group. We seem to have a
> pretty creative bunch.
> Here is my first cut. Please critique, just let me get my
> fire shield up first.
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> Friday (preferably Nov 3 or 10, 2006)
> 
> 11:00am - 4:00 pm Day trips
> 
> 1. Mini Bus to local nature sites to see / collect
> aquatic weeds etc (Tom Barr +
> volunteer)
> 2. mini Bus to Steinhart, GG park Conservatory of flowers
> (has pond exhibit,
> neat place), then hit Ocean and Albany Aquariums (Michael
> L + volunteer)
> 
> Mini Buses would be rented and driven by volunteers.
> Spots filled up on 1st
> come/1st served basis
> 
> 4:00 - 7:00 pm General Registration
> 
> 7:00pm Welcome/Community evening.
> 
> 7:00 - 730 Dave Gomberg: Welcome.
> Review Conference Agenda
> Identify the speakers, and recognize them if present.
> 
> 7:30 - 9:00 Aquarium Plant Community (10-15 min slots to
> give voice to the
> Aquatic Plant Community)
> For Example.
> Jeff Kropp for SFBAAPS
> Reps from Other Aquatic Plant hobbiest groups
> 
> Tom Barr for Barr Report
> Art G from APC
> Robert H from Aquabotanic
> Jeff Senske ADG
> etc
> 
> laid back, focus on fun and mixing.
> 
> Saturday : The conference
> 
> 7:00 - 8:00 Breakfast
> 8:00 - 8:30 AGA opening comments - Karen Randall
> 8:30 - 9:00 SFBAAPS Jim L. Conference notes, recognize
> volunteers, etc
> 9:00 - 10:00 Jay Luto: Aquatic phtography
> 10:00 - 11:30 Dave Wilson: Aquatic plants from Australia
> 11:30 - 1:00 Lunch
> 1:00 - 2:00 Edward: PPS overview and Discussion
> 2:00 - 3:00 Tom Barr : Marine Plants
> 3:00 - 4:00 Frank : Freshwater Shrimp for the Aquarium
> 4:00 - 5:00 Erik Olsen: AGA contest winners
> 5:00 - 6:00 Intermission / vendor room focus
> 6:00 - 8:00 Banquet
> 8:00 - 10: 00 Keynote Speaker: Claus Christiansen
> (Tropica)
> (other suggestion here is Professor Tan (Briologist) on
> mosses
> 
> Sunday:
> 7:30 - 8:30 Breakfast
> 8:30 - 9:30 Panel Q&A (Jeff Senske, Tom Barr, Claus
> Christiansen, Edward, Dave
> Wilson)
> 9:30 - 10:30 Iron Aquascapers
> 3*20 Gallon Aquariums -various aquascaping stuff.
> Jeff Senske Vs Erik Leung Vs Luis Navarro
> (or aquarium societies could propose their team)
> 
> 10:30 - 2:00pm Live Auction
> Silent auction would have been in progess from 9:00
> onwards
> (Start with 3 Iron Aquascapers Aquariums)
> 2:00 - 3:00pm Sell off all remaining items not auctioned
> 3:00 pm Close
> 
> ----------------------------------------------
> 
> Okay. Would you go to this ?
> 
> Feedback Please !!!
> 
> Jim.
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