Re: [AGA-mcm] contest chai job description -elections

[Larry Lampert <l_lampert@yahoo.com>]

Multiple applicants....It would be a nice problem for
us to have. I am certain we could find a place to put
anyone who has the desire to help to work.

If we do actually get multiple applicants than it will
have to be decided based on what we think would be
best the best person for the position. 

 I would say we are looking for someone who has some
type of a track record in a similiar position.

Cheryl also metioned many of the important qualities
when she wrote the job description:
"Duties include implementing online and/or print
advertising, 
recruiting
> judges, requesting sponsorship for prizes, handling
participant and
> member problems and feedback, and coordinating
prize-giving. Erik 
Olson
> will run the Contest web site and provide technical
support, so 
computer
> skills are not required beyond timely communication
via e-mail and 
forum.
> > The Contest Committee Chair should have working
knowledge of the
> Contest, although previous participation is not
required. This person
> should be detail-oriented and able to recruit and
supervise 
volunteers
> for tasks such as creating graphics and posting in
forums. He or she
> must be routinely available via e-mail and forum,
and reports to the 
AGA
> Management Committee."

I see this position as more of a project manager than
a hard skills position. 

 Qualifications would be somewhat difficult to qualify
without meeting with the person or knowing him/her,
but we certainly would want someone who is PC literate
and hopefully understands something about graphics.
They would need to have energy and sticktuitiveness
but again I'm not sure how you can know that. 

I would want someone who has a vision for the contest.
Someone who is looking to actively market it and comes
with their own ideas to do so. 

When conducting a search it is rare that the perfect
candidate surfaces.Even highly paid retained executive
search firms have a difficult time that is why they
are able to negotiate their substantial fees.
(That is why it is called recruiting not placing);-).

It is likely that we won't find a perfect fit but
let's see what we find. At this point, I feel our
number one priority is bandwidth at the top of the
organization.

Now for the second (actually third if you count "pay
for position" mini-thread ;-))and completely seperate
topic that has been combined with this
thread.....elections.

Yes, Mike, Phil I also think we have grown to where we
should look at implementing elected officers with
terms. I honestly think that the board makeup will not
change at all, but my hope would be as Mike metioned
to make folks feel like they have a say in the AGA.


Perhaps the best way for us to start would be to have
an election for President. I have agreed to a one year
term. I would be open to a second year if you guys
think I did a good job, AND noone else felt they
wanted the position. If that was the case I would like
to open it up to an election to make sure the general
membership agreed.

Just my thoughts.......

Regards,
Larry


--- "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Suppose more than one person applies; how are we
> going to decide? Should be be clear on that before
> we start asking for applicants? Do we have a list of
> qualifications we are looking for. If sos-and so
> applies, will we give him the job because no one
> else applied?
> 
> sh
> 
>  
> * * * * * * * * *
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Larry Lampert <l_lampert@yahoo.com>
> To: AGA Advisory Committee <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 8, 2007 10:00:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] contest chai job description
> 
> 
> I think we should post it on all three. I am not
> sure
> where it would go on the web site any ideas?
> 
> Larry
> --- Cheryl Rogers <cheryl@rightstuffwebsites.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > Okay. Pending any corrections, shall we post this
> > notice on the web 
> > site, on the forum, and/or in TAG?
> > 
> > Cheryl
> > 
> > 
> > Larry Lampert wrote:
> > > I guess you guys already know where I stand on
> > this
> > > issue from the Board Meeting at the AGA, but
> just
> > to
> > > put my two cents in again. I am not in favor of
> > paying
> > > folks for volunteer positions either. I think it
> > is
> > > opening Pandora's box for the reasons that Mike,
> > Erik
> > > and Scott have already elaborated.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > However, I don't think we can rule it out
> > completely
> > > if we fail in our search to find an adequate
> > > replacement for the contest. I honestly think
> that
> > we
> > > will be able to find a competent volunteer
> > replacement
> > > I just hope that it happens sooner rather than
> > later.
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > Larry
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- Cheryl Rogers
> <cheryl@rightstuffwebsites.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > >> Erik Olson wrote:
> > >>> I also like the write-up, and somewhat like
> > Soctt
> > >> am shaky on the pay part 
> > >>> (as I have voiced to all of you before in
> phone
> > >> conversations).
> > >>> Thing is, I also beleive we should let folks
> try
> > >> out some new ideas.  And 
> > >>> Cheryl has wanted to try out some compensated
> > jobs
> > >> for a while.
> > >>
> > >> Yeah, but that's the ting about compensated
> jobs.
> > >> How can we pay someone 
> > >> one year and not pay someone the next year and
> > >> expect the same level of 
> > >> service?
> > >>
> > >>> Perhaps it could be clear this is a one-season
> > >> agreement that will 
> > >>> auto-terminate at the end of the contest
> unless
> > >> explicitly renewed.  My 
> > >>> history with having to fire people here is
> > flaring
> > >> up.  We've had too many 
> > >>> assumed "positions for life" on the AGA that
> > >> require extra action to 
> > >>> correct (including having to fire myself as
> > >> president.  I was not happy 
> > >>> about that, and neither was I).
> > >> LOL! "I can't fire me, I quit!"  Yes, I think
> > that
> > >> either way it should 
> > >> be a one-time agreement.
> > >>
> > >> I'm not rabid about paying someone if we can
> find
> > a
> > >> volunteer. I'm just 
> > >> offering it up for discussion because
> volunteers
> > who
> > >> actually stick with 
> > >> a job for more than a month seem to be thin on
> > the
> > >> ground. Paying 
> > >> someone a flat fee or "per entrant" fee would
> > make
> > >> the worker take the 
> > >> job more seriously, and a little dedication is
> > >> something we could truly use.
> > >>
> > >> Cheryl
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