Re: [AGA-mcm] contest chai job description -elections

["Karen Randall" <krandall@rdrcpa.biz>]

I think we would need to re-write (or ammend) the bylaws before we could 
hold elections.

Besides, who told you you were accepting for a one year term?  Didn't you 
know that this is like royalty?  You're king until you either die or 
abdicate.<g>

Karen



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Lampert" <l_lampert@yahoo.com>
To: "AGA Advisory Committee" <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] contest chai job description -elections


> Multiple applicants....It would be a nice problem for
> us to have. I am certain we could find a place to put
> anyone who has the desire to help to work.
>
> If we do actually get multiple applicants than it will
> have to be decided based on what we think would be
> best the best person for the position.
>
> I would say we are looking for someone who has some
> type of a track record in a similiar position.
>
> Cheryl also metioned many of the important qualities
> when she wrote the job description:
> "Duties include implementing online and/or print
> advertising,
> recruiting
>> judges, requesting sponsorship for prizes, handling
> participant and
>> member problems and feedback, and coordinating
> prize-giving. Erik
> Olson
>> will run the Contest web site and provide technical
> support, so
> computer
>> skills are not required beyond timely communication
> via e-mail and
> forum.
>> > The Contest Committee Chair should have working
> knowledge of the
>> Contest, although previous participation is not
> required. This person
>> should be detail-oriented and able to recruit and
> supervise
> volunteers
>> for tasks such as creating graphics and posting in
> forums. He or she
>> must be routinely available via e-mail and forum,
> and reports to the
> AGA
>> Management Committee."
>
> I see this position as more of a project manager than
> a hard skills position.
>
> Qualifications would be somewhat difficult to qualify
> without meeting with the person or knowing him/her,
> but we certainly would want someone who is PC literate
> and hopefully understands something about graphics.
> They would need to have energy and sticktuitiveness
> but again I'm not sure how you can know that.
>
> I would want someone who has a vision for the contest.
> Someone who is looking to actively market it and comes
> with their own ideas to do so.
>
> When conducting a search it is rare that the perfect
> candidate surfaces.Even highly paid retained executive
> search firms have a difficult time that is why they
> are able to negotiate their substantial fees.
> (That is why it is called recruiting not placing);-).
>
> It is likely that we won't find a perfect fit but
> let's see what we find. At this point, I feel our
> number one priority is bandwidth at the top of the
> organization.
>
> Now for the second (actually third if you count "pay
> for position" mini-thread ;-))and completely seperate
> topic that has been combined with this
> thread.....elections.
>
> Yes, Mike, Phil I also think we have grown to where we
> should look at implementing elected officers with
> terms. I honestly think that the board makeup will not
> change at all, but my hope would be as Mike metioned
> to make folks feel like they have a say in the AGA.
>
>
> Perhaps the best way for us to start would be to have
> an election for President. I have agreed to a one year
> term. I would be open to a second year if you guys
> think I did a good job, AND noone else felt they
> wanted the position. If that was the case I would like
> to open it up to an election to make sure the general
> membership agreed.
>
> Just my thoughts.......
>
> Regards,
> Larry
>
>
> --- "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Suppose more than one person applies; how are we
>> going to decide? Should be be clear on that before
>> we start asking for applicants? Do we have a list of
>> qualifications we are looking for. If sos-and so
>> applies, will we give him the job because no one
>> else applied?
>>
>> sh
>>
>>
>> * * * * * * * * *
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Larry Lampert <l_lampert@yahoo.com>
>> To: AGA Advisory Committee <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
>> Sent: Monday, January 8, 2007 10:00:25 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] contest chai job description
>>
>>
>> I think we should post it on all three. I am not
>> sure
>> where it would go on the web site any ideas?
>>
>> Larry
>> --- Cheryl Rogers <cheryl@rightstuffwebsites.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Okay. Pending any corrections, shall we post this
>> > notice on the web
>> > site, on the forum, and/or in TAG?
>> >
>> > Cheryl
>> >
>> >
>> > Larry Lampert wrote:
>> > > I guess you guys already know where I stand on
>> > this
>> > > issue from the Board Meeting at the AGA, but
>> just
>> > to
>> > > put my two cents in again. I am not in favor of
>> > paying
>> > > folks for volunteer positions either. I think it
>> > is
>> > > opening Pandora's box for the reasons that Mike,
>> > Erik
>> > > and Scott have already elaborated.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > However, I don't think we can rule it out
>> > completely
>> > > if we fail in our search to find an adequate
>> > > replacement for the contest. I honestly think
>> that
>> > we
>> > > will be able to find a competent volunteer
>> > replacement
>> > > I just hope that it happens sooner rather than
>> > later.
>> > >
>> > > Regards,
>> > > Larry
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --- Cheryl Rogers
>> <cheryl@rightstuffwebsites.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Erik Olson wrote:
>> > >>> I also like the write-up, and somewhat like
>> > Soctt
>> > >> am shaky on the pay part
>> > >>> (as I have voiced to all of you before in
>> phone
>> > >> conversations).
>> > >>> Thing is, I also beleive we should let folks
>> try
>> > >> out some new ideas.  And
>> > >>> Cheryl has wanted to try out some compensated
>> > jobs
>> > >> for a while.
>> > >>
>> > >> Yeah, but that's the ting about compensated
>> jobs.
>> > >> How can we pay someone
>> > >> one year and not pay someone the next year and
>> > >> expect the same level of
>> > >> service?
>> > >>
>> > >>> Perhaps it could be clear this is a one-season
>> > >> agreement that will
>> > >>> auto-terminate at the end of the contest
>> unless
>> > >> explicitly renewed.  My
>> > >>> history with having to fire people here is
>> > flaring
>> > >> up.  We've had too many
>> > >>> assumed "positions for life" on the AGA that
>> > >> require extra action to
>> > >>> correct (including having to fire myself as
>> > >> president.  I was not happy
>> > >>> about that, and neither was I).
>> > >> LOL! "I can't fire me, I quit!"  Yes, I think
>> > that
>> > >> either way it should
>> > >> be a one-time agreement.
>> > >>
>> > >> I'm not rabid about paying someone if we can
>> find
>> > a
>> > >> volunteer. I'm just
>> > >> offering it up for discussion because
>> volunteers
>> > who
>> > >> actually stick with
>> > >> a job for more than a month seem to be thin on
>> > the
>> > >> ground. Paying
>> > >> someone a flat fee or "per entrant" fee would
>> > make
>> > >> the worker take the
>> > >> job more seriously, and a little dedication is
>> > >> something we could truly use.
>> > >>
>> > >> Cheryl
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