I think we would need to re-write (or ammend) the bylaws before we could
hold elections.
Besides, who told you you were accepting for a one
year term? Didn't you
know that this is like
royalty? You're king until you either die or
abdicate.<g>
Karen
----- Original Message
-----
From: "Larry Lampert" <l_lampert@yahoo.com>
To: "AGA
Advisory Committee" <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
Sent: Monday, January 08,
2007 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] contest chai job description
-elections
> Multiple applicants....It would be a nice problem
for
> us to have. I am certain we could find a place to put
>
anyone who has the desire to help to work.
>
> If we do actually
get multiple applicants than it will
> have to be decided based on what
we think would be
> best the best person for the
position.
>
> I would say we are looking for someone who has
some
> type of a track record in a similiar position.
>
>
Cheryl also metioned many of the important qualities
> when she wrote
the job description:
> "Duties include implementing online and/or
print
> advertising,
> recruiting
>> judges, requesting
sponsorship for prizes, handling
> participant and
>> member
problems and feedback, and coordinating
> prize-giving. Erik
>
Olson
>> will run the Contest web site and provide technical
>
support, so
> computer
>> skills are not required beyond timely
communication
> via e-mail and
> forum.
>> > The
Contest Committee Chair should have working
> knowledge of
the
>> Contest, although previous participation is not
>
required. This person
>> should be detail-oriented and able to
recruit and
> supervise
> volunteers
>> for tasks such as
creating graphics and posting in
> forums. He or she
>> must be
routinely available via e-mail and forum,
> and reports to the
>
AGA
>> Management Committee."
>
> I see this position as
more of a project manager than
> a hard skills position.
>
>
Qualifications would be somewhat difficult to qualify
> without meeting
with the person or knowing him/her,
> but we certainly would want
someone who is PC literate
> and hopefully understands something about
graphics.
> They would need to have energy and sticktuitiveness
>
but again I'm not sure how you can know that.
>
> I would want
someone who has a vision for the contest.
> Someone who is looking to
actively market it and comes
> with their own ideas to do
so.
>
> When conducting a search it is rare that the
perfect
> candidate surfaces.Even highly paid retained executive
>
search firms have a difficult time that is why they
> are able to
negotiate their substantial fees.
> (That is why it is called recruiting
not placing);-).
>
> It is likely that we won't find a perfect fit
but
> let's see what we find. At this point, I feel our
> number
one priority is bandwidth at the top of the
>
organization.
>
> Now for the second (actually third if you count
"pay
> for position" mini-thread ;-))and completely seperate
>
topic that has been combined with this
>
thread.....elections.
>
> Yes, Mike, Phil I also think we have
grown to where we
> should look at implementing elected officers
with
> terms. I honestly think that the board makeup will not
>
change at all, but my hope would be as Mike metioned
> to make folks
feel like they have a say in the AGA.
>
>
> Perhaps the best
way for us to start would be to have
> an election for President. I have
agreed to a one year
> term. I would be open to a second year if you
guys
> think I did a good job, AND noone else felt they
> wanted
the position. If that was the case I would like
> to open it up to an
election to make sure the general
> membership agreed.
>
>
Just my thoughts.......
>
> Regards,
>
Larry
>
>
> --- "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>
>> Suppose more than one person applies; how are
we
>> going to decide? Should be be clear on that before
>>
we start asking for applicants? Do we have a list of
>>
qualifications we are looking for. If sos-and so
>> applies, will we
give him the job because no one
>> else
applied?
>>
>> sh
>>
>>
>> * * *
* * * * * *
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original
Message ----
>> From: Larry Lampert
<l_lampert@yahoo.com>
>> To: AGA Advisory Committee
<aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
>> Sent: Monday, January 8, 2007 10:00:25
AM
>> Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] contest chai job
description
>>
>>
>> I think we should post it on
all three. I am not
>> sure
>> where it would go on the web
site any ideas?
>>
>> Larry
>> --- Cheryl Rogers
<cheryl@rightstuffwebsites.com>
>>
wrote:
>>
>> > Okay. Pending any corrections, shall we
post this
>> > notice on the web
>> > site, on the
forum, and/or in TAG?
>> >
>> > Cheryl
>>
>
>> >
>> > Larry Lampert wrote:
>> >
> I guess you guys already know where I stand on
>> >
this
>> > > issue from the Board Meeting at the AGA,
but
>> just
>> > to
>> > > put my two
cents in again. I am not in favor of
>> > paying
>> >
> folks for volunteer positions either. I think it
>> >
is
>> > > opening Pandora's box for the reasons that
Mike,
>> > Erik
>> > > and Scott have already
elaborated.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
However, I don't think we can rule it out
>> >
completely
>> > > if we fail in our search to find an
adequate
>> > > replacement for the contest. I honestly
think
>> that
>> > we
>> > > will be able
to find a competent volunteer
>> > replacement
>> >
> I just hope that it happens sooner rather than
>> >
later.
>> > >
>> > > Regards,
>> >
> Larry
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
--- Cheryl Rogers
>>
<cheryl@rightstuffwebsites.com>
>> > > wrote:
>>
> >
>> > >> Erik Olson wrote:
>> >
>>> I also like the write-up, and somewhat like
>> >
Soctt
>> > >> am shaky on the pay part
>> >
>>> (as I have voiced to all of you before in
>>
phone
>> > >> conversations).
>> > >>>
Thing is, I also beleive we should let folks
>> try
>> >
>> out some new ideas. And
>> > >>>
Cheryl has wanted to try out some compensated
>> >
jobs
>> > >> for a while.
>> >
>>
>> > >> Yeah, but that's the ting about
compensated
>> jobs.
>> > >> How can we pay
someone
>> > >> one year and not pay someone the next year
and
>> > >> expect the same level of
>> >
>> service?
>> > >>
>> > >>>
Perhaps it could be clear this is a one-season
>> > >>
agreement that will
>> > >>> auto-terminate at the end of
the contest
>> unless
>> > >> explicitly
renewed. My
>> > >>> history with having to
fire people here is
>> > flaring
>> > >>
up. We've had too many
>> > >>> assumed
"positions for life" on the AGA that
>> > >> require extra
action to
>> > >>> correct (including having to fire
myself as
>> > >> president. I was not
happy
>> > >>> about that, and neither was
I).
>> > >> LOL! "I can't fire me, I quit!" Yes,
I think
>> > that
>> > >> either way it
should
>> > >> be a one-time agreement.
>> >
>>
>> > >> I'm not rabid about paying someone if we
can
>> find
>> > a
>> > >> volunteer.
I'm just
>> > >> offering it up for discussion
because
>> volunteers
>> > who
>> > >>
actually stick with
>> > >> a job for more than a month seem
to be thin on
>> > the
>> > >> ground.
Paying
>> > >> someone a flat fee or "per entrant" fee
would
>> > make
>> > >> the worker take
the
>> > >> job more seriously, and a little dedication
is
>> > >> something we could truly use.
>> >
>>
>> > >> Cheryl
>> > >>
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