Re: [AGA-mcm] contest chai job description -elections

[" Mike Hellweg" <mhellweg511@charter.net>]

It is said that the best kings are the servants of their subjects, not the 
other way round.  Sound more like what Erik described?  ; )

Mike
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Lampert" <l_lampert@yahoo.com>
To: "AGA Advisory Committee" <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] contest chai job description -elections


> Yes, we would need to amend the bylaws before we coul
> hold elections. I guess I am just trying to see how
> others feel about it before making any type of formal
> motion to the board.
>
> King eh? Hmmmm Erik described the position to me as
> something quite different from that of a King but I
> like the idea. It reminds me of when I tell people
> that I am the king of my household and I do really
> believe it. The unfortunate part is I appear to be the
> only one ;-).
>
> Regards,
>
> Larry
> King of One
>
>
> --- Karen Randall <krandall@rdrcpa.biz> wrote:
>
>> I think we would need to re-write (or ammend) the
>> bylaws before we could
>> hold elections.
>>
>> Besides, who told you you were accepting for a one
>> year term?  Didn't you
>> know that this is like royalty?  You're king until
>> you either die or
>> abdicate.<g>
>>
>> Karen
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Larry Lampert" <l_lampert@yahoo.com>
>> To: "AGA Advisory Committee" <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
>> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 11:16 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] contest chai job description
>> -elections
>>
>>
>> > Multiple applicants....It would be a nice problem
>> for
>> > us to have. I am certain we could find a place to
>> put
>> > anyone who has the desire to help to work.
>> >
>> > If we do actually get multiple applicants than it
>> will
>> > have to be decided based on what we think would be
>> > best the best person for the position.
>> >
>> > I would say we are looking for someone who has
>> some
>> > type of a track record in a similiar position.
>> >
>> > Cheryl also metioned many of the important
>> qualities
>> > when she wrote the job description:
>> > "Duties include implementing online and/or print
>> > advertising,
>> > recruiting
>> >> judges, requesting sponsorship for prizes,
>> handling
>> > participant and
>> >> member problems and feedback, and coordinating
>> > prize-giving. Erik
>> > Olson
>> >> will run the Contest web site and provide
>> technical
>> > support, so
>> > computer
>> >> skills are not required beyond timely
>> communication
>> > via e-mail and
>> > forum.
>> >> > The Contest Committee Chair should have working
>> > knowledge of the
>> >> Contest, although previous participation is not
>> > required. This person
>> >> should be detail-oriented and able to recruit and
>> > supervise
>> > volunteers
>> >> for tasks such as creating graphics and posting
>> in
>> > forums. He or she
>> >> must be routinely available via e-mail and forum,
>> > and reports to the
>> > AGA
>> >> Management Committee."
>> >
>> > I see this position as more of a project manager
>> than
>> > a hard skills position.
>> >
>> > Qualifications would be somewhat difficult to
>> qualify
>> > without meeting with the person or knowing
>> him/her,
>> > but we certainly would want someone who is PC
>> literate
>> > and hopefully understands something about
>> graphics.
>> > They would need to have energy and
>> sticktuitiveness
>> > but again I'm not sure how you can know that.
>> >
>> > I would want someone who has a vision for the
>> contest.
>> > Someone who is looking to actively market it and
>> comes
>> > with their own ideas to do so.
>> >
>> > When conducting a search it is rare that the
>> perfect
>> > candidate surfaces.Even highly paid retained
>> executive
>> > search firms have a difficult time that is why
>> they
>> > are able to negotiate their substantial fees.
>> > (That is why it is called recruiting not
>> placing);-).
>> >
>> > It is likely that we won't find a perfect fit but
>> > let's see what we find. At this point, I feel our
>> > number one priority is bandwidth at the top of the
>> > organization.
>> >
>> > Now for the second (actually third if you count
>> "pay
>> > for position" mini-thread ;-))and completely
>> seperate
>> > topic that has been combined with this
>> > thread.....elections.
>> >
>> > Yes, Mike, Phil I also think we have grown to
>> where we
>> > should look at implementing elected officers with
>> > terms. I honestly think that the board makeup will
>> not
>> > change at all, but my hope would be as Mike
>> metioned
>> > to make folks feel like they have a say in the
>> AGA.
>> >
>> >
>> > Perhaps the best way for us to start would be to
>> have
>> > an election for President. I have agreed to a one
>> year
>> > term. I would be open to a second year if you guys
>> > think I did a good job, AND noone else felt they
>> > wanted the position. If that was the case I would
>> like
>> > to open it up to an election to make sure the
>> general
>> > membership agreed.
>> >
>> > Just my thoughts.......
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Larry
>> >
>> >
>> > --- "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Suppose more than one person applies; how are we
>> >> going to decide? Should be be clear on that
>> before
>> >> we start asking for applicants? Do we have a list
>> of
>> >> qualifications we are looking for. If sos-and so
>> >> applies, will we give him the job because no one
>> >> else applied?
>> >>
>> >> sh
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> * * * * * * * * *
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message ----
>> >> From: Larry Lampert <l_lampert@yahoo.com>
>> >> To: AGA Advisory Committee <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
>> >> Sent: Monday, January 8, 2007 10:00:25 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] contest chai job
>> description
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I think we should post it on all three. I am not
>> >> sure
>> >> where it would go on the web site any ideas?
>> >>
>> >> Larry
>> >> --- Cheryl Rogers <cheryl@rightstuffwebsites.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Okay. Pending any corrections, shall we post
>> this
>> >> > notice on the web
>> >> > site, on the forum, and/or in TAG?
>> >> >
>> >> > Cheryl
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Larry Lampert wrote:
>> >> > > I guess you guys already know where I stand
>> on
>> >> > this
>> >> > > issue from the Board Meeting at the AGA, but
>> >> just
>> >> > to
>> >> > > put my two cents in again. I am not in favor
>> of
>> >> > paying
>> >> > > folks for volunteer positions either. I think
>> it
>> >> > is
>> >> > > opening Pandora's box for the reasons that
>> Mike,
>>
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