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Re: [AGA-mcm] Forum future



First, since I get an occasional mail from the geezer gateway such as Tom's post about his 1600 Gallon planted tank, I had no idea I wasn't subscribed to the correct mailing list.  I suspect others don't know about it either.  I thought that the geezer gateway was the only thing available and was unaware that there was a list they copied every post.  Did anyone else not know about this?  Obviously I'm not the only person guilty here... I'm just the only one speaking up it seems.  Even if you are not a moderator, I believe most everyone on this list has some ownership into this. 

As far as the GWAPA forum, I get individual emails every time there is a post.  I don't know if I elected to get it this way, or that is the only option.  GWAPA has a good bit of traffic, but not so much that it is annoying.  Also, I'm not subscribed to every section.

With APC, I get a digest of posts every night.

Now that I know there is something to help me keep up with the forum, I'd have to say, I'd much rather get the plug-in and only be subscribed to the section I moderate and the others I choose rather than getting email about everything.


On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 12:20 AM, Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com> wrote:
The confusion is that there are are three mailing lists. aga-member@thekrib.com was the pre-existing e-mail list used for AGA chatting before the forum.  I double-gatewayed it into the subforum "AGA Member".  That forum and list almost never gets used and needs to disappear.  It has no purpose anymore.

aga-announce@thekrib.com was for occasional announcements.  It's not really gatewayed from anything now.  It is almost never used, and needs to disappear too.

The final list, the important one, notifies you when ANY post has been made on ANY of the forums: "aga-forums@thekrib.com".  This is the so-called "geezer gateway".  Nobody on the board/management/forum mods are subscribed to this list, except Scott (and me).  This list has been essential for catching spam posts before anyone else reads them.  I can't even fathom how Cheryl makes it there before us without being sub'd to the list.

http://www.aquatic-gardeners.org/email.html


Oh, also Ben, I looked at GWAPA's forum (without registering, though). Thanks for the heads-up on this! They appear to be using phpBB 2.0 (same as AGA's forum currently) -- which means they installed a plugin/mod to do that e-mail trick.  I suspect I know which plug-in this is, and we should be able to get it for our upgraded phpbb 3 forum.  Do you get the posts as a digest, or one e-mail per post?


 - Erik


On Tue, 8 Dec 2009, Ben B. wrote:

I'm on every mailing list I'm aware of.  I get an occasional mail  "from someone one the forum"
but no other notifications.

On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com> wrote:
     But my point is that we've had the e-mail-the-entire-post feature since we started
     the forum.  I worked super extra to put in the feature, as it was not part of stock
     phpBB.  But even with that, our moderators apparently never utilized it & subscribed
     to the mailing list.  What will be different after we switch to a different method
     of delivery?  There needs to be something else, don't you think?  Maybe a "moderator
     training session" to get everyone on board?


 - Erik

On Tue, 8 Dec 2009, Ben B. wrote:

     The forum GWAPA uses will mail you the text of the posts but not the
     pictures.  It includes a
     link to the pictures. 

     This "so called moderator' forgets to log in all the time for the same reason
     I think the
     geezers like an email list.  It comes to them.  I would probably never go to
     GWAPA or APC either
     if they didn't come to me.

     I think as long as people could subscribe and get notifications, it wouldn't
     matter so much if
     they got the pictures and maybe not if they didn't get text.  GWAPA is the
     only forum of 3-4 I
     belong to that sends the text.... I think.



     On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 10:08 PM, Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com> wrote:
          Hi Ben,

          I started building the OS image on a new machine today -- the 2.0.22
     forum
          transferred over without a hitch (which pleasantly surprised me), and I
     was able to
          mostly convert it to 3.0.6 on the new machine (as a test).

          This new version of phpbb seems to have a lot of good stuff built-in:
     attachments,
          Atom Feeds, and better e-mail subscription.  The thing that's really
     annoying,
          though, is that it won't bloody e-mail the actual text of the posts
     (compared to a
          feed reader, which will actually show you what's said)... which is why I
     did the
          geezer gateway to begin with.

          If the Atom Feed thing works correctly, I won't be using the e-mail
     subscription at
          all.  I tend to have all my usual websites aggregated under a feed reader
     these
          days, and that *does* show all the text of the posts.


          Lots of stuff didn't transfer over automatically, including the avatars &
     color
          scheme, so I will have some more work to do... but I think this has given
     me hope we
          can do the switch-out within the next couple weeks.  It is also my hope
     that we can
          then get all the so-called moderators on the forum to subscribe in one of
     these two
          ways, so that folks other than Scott and Cheryl answer questions there.

           - Erik


     On Tue, 8 Dec 2009, Ben B. wrote:

          The forums I'm on have newer versions than ours and you are able to
     subscribe
          to the sections. 
          When you do, you get an email when there is a new post on those sections
     or
          you can elect to get
          a summary mailed to you daily of new and updated topics.  I rarely go
     directly
          and log into any
          forum where I'm a member.  I just check the emails I get and follow the
     link
          back to the
          conversation or look at the summaries and pick and choose what I am
     interested
          in.  Every night
          I get 3 emails from Aquatic Plant Central if there is a new post or an
     update
          in the Crypts,
          DFWAPC, or  NASH sections.  Otherwise, I almost never go to APC.

          I was just looking at our forum.  It will let you subscribe to a single
     post,
          but not an entire
          section of the forum.  Can we upgrade our forum to a version that does
     this
          and encourage
          members to subscribe to the various topics?



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