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Re: Aga Members List (fwd)
Well water. Oh no that changes everything.
No it doesn't -- I was just kidding. Well water is usually
fine.
Pure RO is usually not so fine; it's missing all those nice
micronutrient, minerals, that plants and fish seem to like.
I'm not a chemist but I think most drinkable water is
suitable for aquaria.
If the water is too abundant with some things, then you
might need to reduce the levels of those things. If it's
especially high in iron or nitrates, for example, it might
need to be cut with some RO water but in many cases well
water is just fine.
If the pH is very high, you might want to cut it with RO or
just add a little acid to bring the pH down.
But it probably is fine just as it is. Can you find out
what's in your water? Do you need a water softener to use
the water for household purposes?
Scott H.
--- Donna McGraw <donnamcg@swbell.net> wrote:
> OK, I'm ready to bite the bullet. I'm going on vacation
> for a week
> beginning tomorrow but as soon as I get back, I'm going
> to go get that
> substrate and get started. Do I have to have RO water or
> can I use
> untreated well water to fill the tank?
>
> Donna
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com>
> To: <aga-member@thekrib.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 9:31 AM
> Subject: Re: Aga Members List (fwd)
>
>
> > Righto! But I thought I covered that with the fish.
> >
> > You can seed with mulm from another tank if you want
> > virtually skip cycling, but that's not necessary --
> you're
> > gonna have bacteria almost no matter what you do. A
> > healthy aquarium is a bowl of warm bacteria soup :-)
> The
> > organic material feeds the bacteria and heated water
> > cultures them. You have to start the organics
> somewhere
> > and one way to do that is with a *few* fish. You don't
> > want to load the tank up with fish at the start but a
> few
> > are okay, even good. You *do* want to load up with
> plants
> > to absorb the nitrogen and provide lots of oxygen.
> >
> > You *can* even skip the fish altogether (some folks do)
> but
> > you still have to put in fish food or some other more
> > measured and balanced source of nutrients for the
> plants.
> >
> > A filter to mechanically control detritus is a good
> idea in
> > a planted tank but the bacteria in the planted tank (in
> the
> > gravel, on all the surfaces, will probably be enough
> with
> > or without a biofilter -- provided you keep your plants
> fed
> > and don't go crazy and overfeed the plants or your
> fish.
> >
> > If you don't put in a filter, then you should at least
> have
> > a powerhead or other pump to ensure some circulation --
> I
> > did forget that, didn't I?
> >
> > You don't have to add any CO2. You can grow a very
> nice
> > planted tank without adding any CO2. Plants will not
> grow
> > as fast and you won't need as much lighting (and that
> ain't
> > necessarily bad, is it?) but lots of plants will do
> just
> > fine without added CO2. Try something hardy like the
> > Amazon Sword (aka Echinodorus Bleheri) and water sprite
> and
> > java fern. There's lots of others but those are often
> easy
> > to find and you can grow them without added CO2
> >
> >
> >
> > Otoh, if you want to move away from simple, there is no
> end
> > tohow complex you can go. But you can keep things
> simple
> > and have a very nice planted tank. And if you have any
> > artistic talent (which I don't), you can make a lovely
> > aquascape with a simple tank.
> >
> > Simply yours,
> > Scott H.
> >
> > --- Donna McGraw <donnamcg@swbell.net> wrote:
> > > Scott, is it really that simple? What about adding
> > > bacteria, a filter, CO2?
> > >
> > > Donna
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com>
> > > To: <aga-member@thekrib.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 12:45 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Aga Members List (fwd)
> > >
> > >
> > > > Put in substrate, a little water, plants plants
> plants,
> > > > then fill with water. Everything else is
> secondary.
> > > Oh
> > > > yes, a few fish can be nice too ;-)
> > > >
> > > > What plants do you think you'll start with? Where
> will
> > > you
> > > > be getting them?
> > > >
> > > > If that 48 seems daunting, why not set up a little
> 15
> > > > gallon to start -- it can become a quarrantine tank
> > > later.
> > > > Once you get that one going, you just might jump
> right
> > > on
> > > > ahead to the 48.
> > > >
> > > > Scott H.
> > > > --- Donna McGraw <donnamcg@swbell.net> wrote:
> > > > > OK, I'll fess-up too. I've been a member about 6
> > > months
> > > > > and have a 48 gal
> > > > > bow front sitting in my entry way waiting to be
> set
> > > up as
> > > > > an underwater
> > > > > garden - my first attempt. I'm not sure what's
> so
> > > > > intimidating about it but
> > > > > . . . .
> > > > >
> > > > > Donna M
> > > > > Houston
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "dilvish" <dilvish@pacbell.net>
> > > > > To: <aga-member@thekrib.com>
> > > > > Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 11:51 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: Aga Members List (fwd)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > heh.. seems to be a lot of us lurking in the
> > > > > background. I'm a new member
> > > > > > as well so Hello there everyone.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dennis
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "tandj" <tgray@stx.rr.com>
> > > > > > To: <aga-member@thekrib.com>
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 8:55 AM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Aga Members List (fwd)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hello group, I'm a new member also. I joined
> after
> > > > > reading some sample
> > > > > > articles on the internet. The current issue of
> TAG
> > > is
> > > > > wonderful.
> > > > > > Tim Gray
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -------Original Message-------
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: aga-member@thekrib.com
> > > > > > Date: Monday, April 28, 2003 8:40:12 AM
> > > > > > To: aga-member@thekrib.com
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Aga Members List (fwd)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > List was down, perhaps since the upgrade,
> here's a
> > > post
> > > > > that didn't make
> > > > > > it. Testing to make sure it does now...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: DWS
> > > > > > To: aga-member@thekrib.com
> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 7:01 PM
> > > > > > Subject: AGA Mailing List --
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hello All,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > After asking around I found that this is one of
> the
> > > > > larger groups of
> > > > > > committed Aquarium Plant Hobbyists available. I
> > > > > received a sample of the
> > > > > > TAG, and liked what I saw. So I became a member
> and
> > > > > joined this mailing
> > > > > > list. Its been over a week, and I am yet to see
> one
> > > > > post. Is this a
> > > > > > problem with my account, or is there just no
> > > activity?
> > > > > I contacted the
> > > > > list
> > > > > > administrator, and was told there was just not
> alot
> > > of
> > > > > traffic.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why Not? Doesn't anyone have anything to say?
> > > Ideas?
> > > > > Questions?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How many people are on this list?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If Your there Id like to get to know you
> better.
> > > Which
> > > > > is one of the only
> > > > > > purposes I joined. I'm in Indiana, and besides
> a
> > > few
> > > > > small clubs in
> > > > > > Indianapolis (an hour drive from here) there
> are no
> > > > > other aquarium
> > > > > hobbyists
> > > > > > around. :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I just thought Id throw my 2 cents out there
> and
> > > see
> > > > > what happened. If
> > > > > > there are posts and I'm missing something,
> please
> > > let
> > > > > me know what I'm
> > > > > doing
> > > > > > wrong.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank You
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A New Member
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dustin Stonebraker
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Erik Olson" <erik@thekrib.com>
> > > > > > To: "DWS" <dws@mbbookstore.com>
> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 11:57 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Aga Members List
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Did you mail it to aga-member@thekrib.com ?
> > > Usually I
> > > > > get a bounce when
> > > > > > > things don't work.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - Erik
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, 28 Apr 2003, DWS wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Erik,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I am still not receiving any posts to the
> > > mailling
> > > > > list. I even sent a
> > > > > > > > email to the list The evening of Apr 27th
> and
> > > am
> > > > > yet to receive it.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Please let me know why.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Dustin Stonebraker
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From: "Erik Olson" <erik@thekrib.com>
> > > > > > > > To: "DWS" <dws@mbbookstore.com>
> > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 8:23 AM
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Aga Members List
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi Dustin,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Basically not a lot of traffic right now.
> > > Feel
> > > > > free to ask something
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > the list, though!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > - Erik
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Thu, 24 Apr 2003, DWS wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I was wodering why I am not getting any
> of
> > > the
> > > > > messages. Ive
> > > > > > > > subscribed, but have gotten nothing in the
> last
> > > > > three days. Is there
> > > > > > > > nothing being said, or what?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Please let me know asap.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Dustin
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > Erik Olson
> > > > > > > > > erik at thekrib dot com
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Erik Olson
> > > > > > > erik at thekrib dot com
> > > > > > >
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