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Re: [AGA Member] RE: UGF
And you can put back a goodly amount of the mulm that
settles from the water after you stir things up and siphon
it out. siphon at least a few gallons into a bucket and
save it to put the magic mulm back in.
sh
--- Traci HalesVass <tracihv@msn.com> wrote:
> all these responses are great! I think it might be
> better, if not easier, to
> put my finned friends in the little tank, take out the
> ugf, etc, then plant.
> It seems if I put the water from the tank back in, it
> should work okay.
> that's a project that'll have to wait til next week!
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> >From: Torrance Haggerty <poice_1906@argolink.net>
> >Reply-To: aga-member@thekrib.com
> >To: aga-member@thekrib.com
> >Subject: [AGA Member] RE: UGF
> >Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 15:08:51 -0500
> >
> >Hello All,
> >This list is really moving ahead... and I am glad about
> it. Concerning the
> >UGF. I would recommend (based on my many years of
> experience in these
> >matters- LOL) that you remove the UGF and set the
> planted aquarium from
> >scratch. It is better to do it from the onset of the
> planting than to have
> >to break down a "cycled" tank later. The cycling of the
> planted tank is
> >much easier than the re-cycling of a planted tank that
> has gone through an
> >ammonia spike with detritus and other nitrates released
> into the water
> >column. Also, the root system of your plants will not
> fully develop and
> >those that do will wrap around the plates of the UGF and
> those precious
> >fish
> >that you have will die a horrible death. I received a
> "planted" tank from
> >a
> >LFS that had a UGF in it, and the substrate became so
> hard that it was
> >virtually impossible to add any plants to the tank. The
> UGF will
> >ultimately
> >remove the pore spacing that is between the grains of
> your substrate
> >material, and this could result in some plants not
> growing there (i.e. many
> >of the foreground plants and crypts that are on the
> market). Lastly, the
> >powerheads can be mounted against the glass (using
> suction cups that are
> >purchased separately) and be used for water movement, or
> as S. Heiber
> >suggested you to add a foam tube and convert it into a
> psuedo-mechanical
> >filter. Also, if you are going to be fertilizing
> >(TMG,Flourish,PMDD,etc...)
> >a UGF will not be sufficient to get all of the unwanteds
> out of your tank.
> >You will need a sump, canister filter, or a hanging
> filter to come to the
> >rescue "when" you have a problem in the water column.
> Filters don't just
> >keep our water clean, it also houses 30% of our
> bacteria, and if there is a
> >problem in the tank, the filter's media and bacteria are
> there to eat up
> >the
> >"bad" bacteria. In short...LOL...if you are going to
> start into planted
> >tanks, start from the basics. That old mulm that is in
> your substrate is
> >not precious enough to risk the devastation that could
> lie ahead for not
> >using the proper substrate and for not ridding yourself
> of that UGF. If
> >you
> >are concerned about the cycle time, Marineland has a new
> product out
> >"BIO_SPIRA" which is the only "true" nitrifying bacteria
> supplement on the
> >market. (I am not a salesman and I do not receive
> anything from
> >Marineland). Bio_SPIRA will allow you to add fish to
> your aquarium about
> >an
> >hour after you have filled it with water. You will
> never fully forego the
> >cycling of the tank, but with Bio-SPIRA and the
> introduction of nitrifying
> >bacteria, this is the closest you will get unless you
> get the bacteria from
> >an old established tank. Hope this helped and that you
> didn't stop reading
> >about an hour ago. Cheers,
> >Torrance Haggerty
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-aga-member@thekrib.com
> >[mailto:owner-aga-member@thekrib.com]On Behalf Of Tomoko
> Schum
> >Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 2:08 PM
> >To: aga-member@thekrib.com
> >Subject: UGF
> >
> >
> >Hi,
> >
> >Dustin wrote:
> > > I had a 10 gal many years ago with just regulat
> gravel and
> >underground
> > > filter, and i had great plant growth. no co2 no
> fertz,
> >just a heavy fish
> > > load.
> >
> >I started out that way, too. My plants also grew really
> >well. However, when I tried to pull up an overgrown
> Amazon
> >sword (at least for that tank), one of the UGF plates
> came
> >up half way through the gravels because of the roots
> >wrapping around the plate. Boy, what a mess it created.
> I
> >ended up breaking down the tank after all.
> >
> >Tomoko
> >
> >
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