I think the first time it topped out around $60... not quite as high as the Pellia, but more than I'd pay for a plant I think.<g> And you have to remember, these aren't dedicated "plant people" either. The big bucks usually go for newly imported fish species. Karen Karen A. Randall krandall@rdrcpa.biz ----- Original Message ----- From: "DWS" <dws@mbbookstore.com> To: <aga-member@thekrib.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 10:06 PM Subject: Re: [AGA Member] Pellia > whats your defination of obscene? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Karen Randall" <krandall@rdrcpa.biz> > To: <aga-member@thekrib.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 4:54 PM > Subject: Re: [AGA Member] Pellia > > > > "Tidy sum" yes, by NEC standards. That gives you an idea of the price for > > the first few sprigs of Windelov, when I say it was obscene by NEC > > standards.<g> > > > > Karen > > > > Karen A. Randall > > krandall@rdrcpa.biz > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com> > > To: <aga-member@thekrib.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 7:33 PM > > Subject: Re: [AGA Member] Pellia > > > > > > > Except maybe at the NEC, where they both can go for a tidy > > > sum :-) > > > > > > Scott H > > > --- Karen Randall <krandall@rdrcpa.biz> wrote: > > > > I'm sure that will happen. I remember when I first put > > > > some Windelov Java > > > > fern into auctions, it was going for obscene prices. Now > > > > it often goes > > > > lower than plain old large leaf Java fern. > > > > > > > > Karen > > > > > > > > Karen A. Randall > > > > krandall@rdrcpa.biz > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com> > > > > To: <aga-member@thekrib.com> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 5:56 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [AGA Member] Pellia > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, Erik. > > > > > > > > > > Any info at any time will be appreciated. You can send > > > > > stuff direct to my email if you don't want to bog the > > > > list > > > > > with lesser details. > > > > > > > > > > It seems that this stuff has made it's way in small > > > > amounts > > > > > in lots of places all across the country. Once a few > > > > folks > > > > > get the propagation down, there will be a critical mass > > > > and > > > > > we'll be seeing this stuff widspread, no? > > > > > > > > > > Scott H. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- erik@e-aquaria.com wrote: > > > > > > A few of us are growing it here in San Francisco. > > > > I'll > > > > > > keep > > > > > > you posted as to what's developing Scott. > > > > > > > > > > > > Erik Leung > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 7 May 2003 14:07:36 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > > "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > If not, how about a round up of people's experience > > > > -- > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > as good but not bad? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I could ask the Texas crew and maybe Bailin could > > > > give > > > > > > > them > > > > > > > a word of encouragement or two too. I could reach > > > > out > > > > > > to > > > > > > > Shireen Gonzaga and maybe Kwek Leong -- I think > > > > he's > > > > > > had > > > > > > > pretty good luck with it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anybody else grow, try to grow, or know soeone who > > > > > > tried > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > grow? Send me how ever much you're willing to > > > > write > > > > > > > (index > > > > > > > cards, notes on napkins, dictaphone tapes, etc.) > > > > about > > > > > > it > > > > > > > and I'll pull it together into something. This > > > > would > > > > > > be > > > > > > > more of a review and summary than _Stranded_ is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course a full piece with expertise (i.e., by a > > > > > > Pellia > > > > > > > expert) would be nice instead, but I'm willing to > > > > take > > > > > > a > > > > > > > crack at this other route. Comments anyone? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I assume this isn't a rush job :-\ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scott H. > > > > > > > --- Karen Randall <krandall@rdrcpa.biz> wrote: > > > > > > > > That's true. Anyone interested in writing about > > > > the > > > > > > > > collective experiences > > > > > > > > with Pellia?<g> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Karen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Karen A. Randall > > > > > > > > krandall@rdrcpa.biz > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > From: "Kathy Olson" <kathy@thekrib.com> > > > > > > > > To: <aga-member@thekrib.com> > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 11:05 AM > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [AGA Member] Pellia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Karen, > > > > > > > > > This sounds like it could be a great artilce in > > > > > > > TAG!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kathy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 6 May 2003, Karen Randall wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Claus tells me that it also grows happily > > > > emersed > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > damp conditions, > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > is why I tried propagating it on the > > > > windowsill. > > > > > > > > That worked very > > > > > > > > nicely > > > > > > > > > > all winter, and shortly before NEC, I had 3 > > > > > > > > containers nice and thick > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > it. The trouble is that as soon as the sun > > > > > > started > > > > > > > > heating up, I cooked > > > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > By a few days before NEC, I had 3 containers > > > > of > > > > > > > green > > > > > > > > goo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Interestingly, being lazy, I never cleaned > > > > the > > > > > > > green > > > > > > > > goo out of the > > > > > > > > > > containers, though I did move them out of the > > > > > > > window. > > > > > > > > Two of the > > > > > > > > containers > > > > > > > > > > had Flourite in them, the third had soil > > > > capped > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > fine gravel. The > > > > > > > > soil > > > > > > > > > > container STILL is full of green goo... in > > > > both > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > the Flourite > > > > > > > > containers, > > > > > > > > > > the Pellia has made a come-back. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Karen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Karen A. Randall > > > > > > > > > > krandall@rdrcpa.biz > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > > From: "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com> > > > > > > > > > > To: <aga-member@thekrib.com> > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 9:48 AM > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [AGA Member] Pellia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Indeed, it's near bouyancy doesn't make it > > > > a > > > > > > lot > > > > > > > > easier to > > > > > > > > > > > emplace. In fact, I think a few of us lost > > > > > > track > > > > > > > > of ours > > > > > > > > > > > when we underestimated the requisite > > > > > > containment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Still, > > > > > > > > > > > it's an interesting property; most plants, > > > > > > > > excepting algae, > > > > > > > > > > > float if you break them from the tyrannical > > > > > > bonds > > > > > > > > of the > > > > > > > > > > > substrate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm curious how this ersatz mobility > > > > effects > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > plant in > > > > > > > > > > > its natural environs. It seems to tear > > > > easily, > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > I'd > > > > > > > > > > > suspect that a moderately large clump would > > > > > > tend > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > break > > > > > > > > > > > off under current if the clump was anchored > > > > or > > > > > > > > snagged. It > > > > > > > > > > > doesn't use roots yet it tends to reside at > > > > the > > > > > > > > bottom of > > > > > > > > > > > whatever water body it's in? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scott H. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Ben B <benrx@naxs.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > It sinks, but it is not heavy, so any > > > > small > > > > > > > > current will > > > > > > > > > > > > wash it around your tank. I still have > > > > to > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > mine tied > > > > > > > > > > > > down. > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > From: S. 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