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Re: [AGA Member] Pellia



oops, found that answer in the later email!!!

On Wed, 7 May 2003, Kathy Olson wrote:

> Okay, I missed the auction at NEC, how much did it go for??
> 
> Kathy
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 7 May 2003, Karen Randall wrote:
> 
> > "Tidy sum" yes, by NEC standards.  That gives you an idea of the price for
> > the first few sprigs of Windelov, when I say it was obscene by NEC
> > standards.<g>
> > 
> > Karen
> > 
> > Karen A. Randall
> > krandall@rdrcpa.biz
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com>
> > To: <aga-member@thekrib.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 7:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AGA Member] Pellia
> > 
> > 
> > > Except maybe at the NEC, where they both can go for a tidy
> > > sum :-)
> > >
> > > Scott H
> > > --- Karen Randall <krandall@rdrcpa.biz> wrote:
> > > > I'm sure that will happen.  I remember when I first put
> > > > some Windelov Java
> > > > fern into auctions, it was going for obscene prices.  Now
> > > > it often goes
> > > > lower than plain old large leaf Java fern.
> > > >
> > > > Karen
> > > >
> > > > Karen A. Randall
> > > > krandall@rdrcpa.biz
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com>
> > > > To: <aga-member@thekrib.com>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 5:56 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [AGA Member] Pellia
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks, Erik.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any info at any time will be appreciated.  You can send
> > > > > stuff direct to my email if you don't want to bog the
> > > > list
> > > > > with lesser details.
> > > > >
> > > > > It seems that this stuff has made it's way in small
> > > > amounts
> > > > > in lots of places all across the country.  Once a few
> > > > folks
> > > > > get the propagation down, there will be a critical mass
> > > > and
> > > > > we'll be seeing this stuff widspread, no?
> > > > >
> > > > > Scott H.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- erik@e-aquaria.com wrote:
> > > > > > A few of us are growing it here in San Francisco.
> > > > I'll
> > > > > > keep
> > > > > > you posted as to what's developing Scott.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Erik Leung
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, 7 May 2003 14:07:36 -0700 (PDT)
> > > > > >  "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > If not, how about a round up of people's experience
> > > > --
> > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > as good but not bad?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I could ask the Texas crew and maybe Bailin could
> > > > give
> > > > > > > them
> > > > > > > a word of encouragement or two too. I could reach
> > > > out
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > Shireen Gonzaga and maybe Kwek Leong -- I think
> > > > he's
> > > > > > had
> > > > > > > pretty good luck with it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anybody else grow, try to grow, or know soeone who
> > > > > > tried
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > grow?  Send me how ever much you're willing to
> > > > write
> > > > > > > (index
> > > > > > > cards, notes on napkins, dictaphone tapes, etc.)
> > > > about
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > and I'll pull it together into something.  This
> > > > would
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > > more of a review and summary than _Stranded_ is.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Of course a full piece with expertise (i.e., by a
> > > > > > Pellia
> > > > > > > expert) would be nice instead, but I'm willing to
> > > > take
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > crack at this other route.  Comments anyone?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I assume this isn't a rush job :-\
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Scott H.
> > > > > > > --- Karen Randall <krandall@rdrcpa.biz> wrote:
> > > > > > > > That's true.  Anyone interested in writing about
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > collective experiences
> > > > > > > > with Pellia?<g>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Karen
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Karen A. Randall
> > > > > > > > krandall@rdrcpa.biz
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From: "Kathy Olson" <kathy@thekrib.com>
> > > > > > > > To: <aga-member@thekrib.com>
> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 11:05 AM
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [AGA Member] Pellia
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Karen,
> > > > > > > > > This sounds like it could be a great artilce in
> > > > > > > TAG!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Kathy
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, 6 May 2003, Karen Randall wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Claus tells me that it also grows happily
> > > > emersed
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > damp conditions,
> > > > > > > > which
> > > > > > > > > > is why I tried propagating it on the
> > > > windowsill.
> > > > > > > > That worked very
> > > > > > > > nicely
> > > > > > > > > > all winter, and shortly before NEC, I had 3
> > > > > > > > containers nice and thick
> > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > it.  The trouble is that as soon as the sun
> > > > > > started
> > > > > > > > heating up, I cooked
> > > > > > > > it.
> > > > > > > > > > By a few days before NEC, I had 3 containers
> > > > of
> > > > > > > green
> > > > > > > > goo.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Interestingly, being lazy, I never cleaned
> > > > the
> > > > > > > green
> > > > > > > > goo out of the
> > > > > > > > > > containers, though I did move them out of the
> > > > > > > window.
> > > > > > > >  Two of the
> > > > > > > > containers
> > > > > > > > > > had Flourite in them, the third had soil
> > > > capped
> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > fine gravel.  The
> > > > > > > > soil
> > > > > > > > > > container STILL is full of green goo... in
> > > > both
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > the Flourite
> > > > > > > > containers,
> > > > > > > > > > the Pellia has made a come-back.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Karen
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Karen A. Randall
> > > > > > > > > > krandall@rdrcpa.biz
> > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > From: "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com>
> > > > > > > > > > To: <aga-member@thekrib.com>
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 9:48 AM
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [AGA Member] Pellia
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Indeed, it's near bouyancy doesn't make it
> > > > a
> > > > > > lot
> > > > > > > > easier to
> > > > > > > > > > > emplace.  In fact, I think a few of us lost
> > > > > > track
> > > > > > > > of ours
> > > > > > > > > > > when we underestimated the requisite
> > > > > > containment.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Still,
> > > > > > > > > > > it's an interesting property; most plants,
> > > > > > > > excepting algae,
> > > > > > > > > > > float if you break them from the tyrannical
> > > > > > bonds
> > > > > > > > of the
> > > > > > > > > > > substrate.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I'm curious how this ersatz mobility
> > > > effects
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > plant in
> > > > > > > > > > > its natural environs.  It seems to tear
> > > > easily,
> > > > > > > so
> > > > > > > > I'd
> > > > > > > > > > > suspect that a moderately large clump would
> > > > > > tend
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > break
> > > > > > > > > > > off under current if the clump was anchored
> > > > or
> > > > > > > > snagged.  It
> > > > > > > > > > > doesn't use roots yet it tends to reside at
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > bottom of
> > > > > > > > > > > whatever water body it's in?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Scott H.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- Ben B <benrx@naxs.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > It sinks, but it is not heavy, so any
> > > > small
> > > > > > > > current will
> > > > > > > > > > > > wash it around your tank.  I still have
> > > > to
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > mine tied
> > > > > > > > > > > > down.
> > > > > > > > > > > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > > >   From: S. Hieber
> > > > > > > > > > > >   To: aga-member@thekrib.com
> > > > > > > > > > > >   Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 8:39 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > >   Subject: Re: [AGA Member] Pellia
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >   I like the fact that it sinks.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >   Scott H.
> > > > > > > > > > > >   --- Ben B <benrx@naxs.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >   > I'm not sure what the mystique is
> > > > about
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > though.
> > > > > > > > > > > > It's
> > > > > > > > > > > >   > just a little green plant.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
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