I do believe we're dealing with many factors here. Many garden plants only get red with lots of sun. The red reduces the amount of light, heat reaching the chloroplasts so that they can continue to function and not burn up. Not less green here, I think, just more red. Cactus, simply vastly reduce the amount of chloroplasts to body tissue ratio in light and heat because they need to conserve water and because they'll burn up. They have to use an entirely different metabolic pathway as they light and heat prevents them from actually photosynthesizing during the day. They hold the light energy chemically and use it at night. If you've ever started tomato seeds for the garden, you know they get leggy because they get too little light and are "reaching" for more light. They don't try to grow fast because they are above the canopy. Lobelia grows well in a wet garden situation and is not a pure aquatic. I don't know enough about this to explain why some plants would get red in lower light. Clearly, we're dealing with very complex situations which are in part species specific and would likely vary with the habitat the plant evolved to deal with. Very interesting discussion though. I do know some garden plants can bleach (grow most Hosta in the sun and see what happens). Under water would almost always be low light situation I think as would the jungle. That's why most houseplants, very low light, come from the tropical understory. Most jungles have fewer daylight hours than temperate summers typically have. The intensity of light is high because of the more perpendicular angle of the light. On the other hand there is more atmosphere filtering out certain rays at lower elevations. Once a plant breaks the surface of water, but only if it does, that's a very high light situation typically. Enough of my rambling. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------ To unsubscribe from this list, please send mail to majordomo@thekrib.com with "Unsubscribe aga-member" in the body of the message. Archives of this list can be found at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-member/