> OK, so the other question, can plants do OK in harder or softer water: I > know that at the soft end of the scale, eventually they can't get the > micronutrients (calcium, magnesium) supplied. I have had this happen > once, and it wasn't pretty. I wish I'd gotten pictures of it -- all-white > leaves. > At the other end, I dunno. I would absolutely *love* to know the answer to > this too, because it would mean that one could keep, say, Lake Tanganyika > cichlids in a beautiful planted tank (I read in Kasselmann there's about 5 > species of plants there). But I never want to risk using the high light > and CO2 on a tanganyika tank. Hmm, maybe time to start now. Most people forget that aquatic plants behave exactly the same as terrestrials in their response to nutirents. That is, there is a continuum from nutrient deficiency to nutrient toxicity. Unfortunately, the problem lies in the fact that many plants exhibit similar symptoms to various nutrient levels. For simplicity sake, most plants exhibit the following symptoms; Nutrient deficiency - stunted growth, poor coloration, and reduced flower/fruit production. Nutrient sufficiency - optimal growth, coloration, and flower/fruit production. Luxury consumption - excessive weak growth, excessive coloration (many plants appearing green almost to the point of having black leaves), excessive poor quality flower/fruit production. Nutrient toxicity - stunted growth often resulting in a crippled appearance, poor coloration,and reduced flower/fruit production. (Many of the same symptoms as nutrient deficiency) Since the macro and micro nutrients interact in a chemical balance, excessive levels of one micro nutrient can also cause a defficiency in others due to it's increased ability to cross the cell membrane in the ionic state and replace other more weakly charged nutrients. Therefore causing similar misleading symptoms. Aluminium is a prime example in replacing other micro nutrients, resulting in toxicity. Unfortunately, we in the terrestrial horticultural industry have an unfair advantage in many, many years of research in plant physiology, plant nutrition, and the like, as well as the common practice of taking tissue samples to determine nutrient levels in a production crop like Christmas poinsettias. Through the use of tissue samples, we can mix up the correct nutrient solutions to push maximum growth in minimal time and push the envelope without actually crossing over into luxury consumption which would be an unnecessary expense in wasted fertilizer. Sadly, aquatic plants haven't reached this state of economic importance to justify the research and equipment expenses. Cheers. --Jim ------------------ To unsubscribe from this list, please send mail to majordomo@thekrib.com with "Unsubscribe aga-member" in the body of the message. Archives of this list can be found at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-member/ ------------------ To unsubscribe from this list, please send mail to majordomo@thekrib.com with "Unsubscribe aga-member" in the body of the message. Archives of this list can be found at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-member/