I did a reflector study a while ago with some nice visuals. You might find it interesting http://www.aquaticplantcentral.com/forum/cms_view_article.php?aid=16 -_Tony -----Original Message----- From: owner-aga-member@thekrib.com [mailto:owner-aga-member@thekrib.com] On Behalf Of Amit Brucker Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 3:41 AM To: aga-member@thekrib.com Subject: Re: [AGA Member] Fluorescent Reflectors efficiency Thank you Scott! Amit ----- Original Message ----- From: "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com> To: <aga-member@thekrib.com> Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 11:33 PM Subject: Re: [AGA Member] Fluorescent Reflectors efficiency > What makes a good reflector are thre things: > > How little light it absorbs--how much light it reflects > without further diffusing it; > > How durable it is--how fast it wil corrode and lose it's > specular properties; > > > How well it reflects light to where you want it. > > > That third one varies on circumstances. If you want the > light to spread as little as possible, then a parabolic > shape is best. Consider a point source of light. If you > properly place a point source in the center of a prabolic > reflector, all the rays coming from the light source and > going to the reflector will be reflected straight forward. > Smooth curves would be ideal, other things being equal. > > With a line source, like fluorescent tube, then the choice > would be a long straight relfector whose sides are > parabolic curves. However, fluorescent light is so diffuse > comeing from the bulb, you'll never get a straightforward > (pardon the pun) reflection. Double tube bulbs (PCs) make > things a tad worse since neither tube will be right on > center. And making things a bit harder is the fact that > fluorescents are really a line source either; the light is > emitted from all over the tube. A fluorescent is a tube > source and not really a line source of light; the light is > spread out right at the bulb. > > If you want light to spread more than a parabolic provides, > then something less than praboic is preferred and vice > versa if you want it be narrower. > > The best material around for the first and second > properties (reflectivity and durability), I believe, is > Miro, a coated polished aluminum. The coating that makes > the aluminum resist corrosion absorbs very little light and > that's the key. > > For an example of very good reflector made of Miro, > consider the AHS reflectors. They are angled because, I > suspect, it's tons easier to get them into shape by bending > them on a brake than to try to get smooth curves with a > more complex machine that rolled or stamped the shape. > > The diff between the psuedo-parabolic shape of an AHS > reflectors and one that was true parabolic is probably > negligible -- bigger diffs exst between brands of bulbs, > how well the bulb and ballast are matched, how long you use > the bulb, and maybe even room temps. > > Also, being angled, they are easier to adjust to suit your > particular purposes. You can relatively easily widen or > narrow the angles, and thereby widen or narrow the spread > of the refelcted light, without damaging the reflector. It > would not be as easy, I think, with smooth curves -- some > portion of the curve would always want to "give" first and > you'd end up with a dent or a buckle instead of a smooth > curve. > > The amount of UV coming from a good fluorescent bulb isn't > much. Enough to darken your Photo-gray eyeglass lenses but > not to darken them al the way. If you have a glass top on > your tank between the bulbs and the water, then there isn't > much UV getting through to the water. Water also abosrbs > true UV pretty well. So there isn't much UV getting down > into the water. > > > Btw, the worst reflectors in terms of shape are ones that > are flat or square in cross section. So individual > refelctors for each bulb do a better job than refelctors > that wrap several bubls. Theorhetically, straight tube T5 > bulbs can beat out bent tube/u-tube PCs with the right > reflectors. > > So the short answer is, no angled isn't better, other > things being equal. But given real workd conditions, you > won't find better refelctors than AHS's, imo. > > Hope that's some help. It's a complicated subject and I > only know this [ ] much. ;-) > sh > > --- Amit Brucker <amitb@gtek.co.il> wrote: > > Thank you all for your help on deep tanks. > > I was reading that reflectors (depending on their > > material, shape and quality) can increase the light > > source in about 40-60%. I am aware of two kinds of > > reflectors: > > 1. The rounded ones > > 2. Angled ones - which are better than the first kind > > because of their shape which increases the light even > > more. > > > > Questions: > > 1. Can anyone approve this info ? > > 2. Is it 'Fair' to include the reflectors when > > calculating the W/G into account ? > > 3. 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