A few thoughts about fans, especially the tube-axial type like computer case fans. A fan's ability to cool hot items is purely a function of how much air it moves in a given period of time. The tips of the blades do 90% of the work, so a bigger diameter means much more air moving, other things being equal. For a 3" fan to move as much air as a 4" fan it needs to spin about 2-3 times as fast. It moves less air per revolution so it has to move air at a higher velocity if it's going to move the same volume of air in a given period as a larger fan. The faster a fan turns the louder it is. The higher the velocity of the air, the louder the fan. The other thing affect fan performance is the bearings. Despite all the diff hype and names for bearing types, there are basically two that are used: Sleeve bearings and ball bearings. Sleeve bearings tend to be cheaper. They can be quieter initially than ball bearings, but ball bearings tend to wear better and those fans will remain quiter over the long run, other things being equal. Cheap bearings of any type won't wear well and won't be quiet. A room fan is sometimes all one needs to hold down aquarium temps, either to move heat away from the aquarium or to move hot air out of a room with several aquaria. Room fans are usually the cheapest and easiest, but not the quietest solution. One rarely sees figures for volume of air movement (cfm) and noise (dBs) for fans unless one goes to the manufacturer. Mouser.com sell several brands (high and medium quality) and post specs in the catalogue and on-line for many of the dozens and dozens of fans they sell. If you see remarkable specs for a fan from a manufacturer, check how long they've been in business and how they are regarded in the industry. Some of the fly-by-nights post remarkable specs that defy the laws of physics and the fans they sell are actually made by one of the other long-standing companies, who would give much less remarkable specs for the same fan. Some of the big names in case fans are EBM/Pabst (a little pricey but very high quality), Adda (your computer probably has several of these inside regardless of the brand on the label), Bi-sonic, Qualtek, and Orion. There are some others; that's not a complete list. Have plants, have fun, Scott H. _______________________________________________ AGA-Member mailing list AGA-Member@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-member