In my experience, many sword plants need at the very least good iron sources at the root to truly flourish, again in my experience most rooted plants benefit more from substrate nutrient sources than water column. However many of the plants I grow can take up nutrients just as easily or primarily from the water column, which is why I make sure I have an abundance of nutrients in the water column as well. Haven't a nutrient rich substrate does not cause problems as long as the substrate is capable of holding them in the substrate which is why a high CEC is important. And certainly cat littler is not the only material out there with a high CEC, especially now. Eco Complete and Flourite immediately come to mind of course, but there are many alternatives, usually some form of fracted clay such as Schultz or Profile or Turface or Structure. Many are intended as an amendment for soil but work equally well in aquatic gardening, although the latter products are inert and have no nutrient value in and of themselves. In a fast growing tank like mine, I've never thought to stir up the substrate as a maintenance procedure, but it can't hurt. I end up pulling up a few plants every week so I suppose I'm getting some benefit there. I just ripped out a Frankenstein sword, the roots covered easily 1/4 of the tank, it's now growing emersed in our green house as a whim. As for snails, Malaysian trumpet snails are used just for the purpose you imagine. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Livay Aviel-R51374" <Aviel.Livay@freescale.com> To: "'Aquatic Gardeners Association Member Chat'" <aga-member@thekrib.com> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 8:51 AM Subject: [SPAM] Re: [AGA-Member] Possibilities of Sozo Haishoku, etc > John, > > "By adding in oxygen either to the water column, or better to the substrate, it is possible to extend the life of the substrate because the BOD will assimilate the oxygen back into itself via bacteria (the biological filter), and this then becomes usable by the roots - typically in the same manner it does in organic farming techniques" > > And also - > > "My point was, as yours, you can keep a substrate going, and build it up, if there is enough new enrichment coming in plus oxygen to render the BOD reusable.." > > - But can I decide that my main fertilization method is through the water column and therefore I don't care too much about the substrate? > - Is there any plant that must consume through roots in order to flourish? > > - How about cutting through the substrate with a knife every week in order to get more aerobic holes? - I know some of my hobby colleages are doing this, I do it occasionally but don't have enough experience to note a difference. > - How about using snails for digging the substrate? > > Aviel. > _______________________________________________ > AGA-Member mailing list > AGA-Member@thekrib.com > http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-member > _______________________________________________ AGA-Member mailing list AGA-Member@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-member