Fw: German tranlator for TAG; APD #871 (fwd)

[Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com>]

Hi there.

A couple of observations here:

  1. Mary says she e-mailed both Neil and Karen on the 1st about this, but
  got no feedback until the 7th when we had Neil e-mail her.

If this is all true, she asked for feedback on the 1st or 2nd, send her
nasty note on the 5th, and we got back to her on the 7th. Between the 1st
and the 5th is not a heck of a long time (and I know she's been pretty
nasty in the past about demanding material in 2 days, and then sitting on
it for a month), so I think I understand why Neil might not have gotten
back in time.  But still, we might have nipped this one in the bud
earlier if the message had been forwarded to the SC.

I thought that we did an excellent job of getting back within two days,
including discussion, once we were aware of the issue.


  2. Mary is still mad at Claus and Ole.

I think Mary still needs some education, as did I on the 5th, about Claus'
approach.  The message from her still indicates she feels betrayed by
them and does not understand their approach.  She does not think what they
did was OK.


  3. Mary feels betrayed by the Steering Committee, and that she should be
     given the authority to do as she wants as editor.

This is very true.  We are quite definitely telling her in so many words
"You've been bad. Don't do that."  We are definitely not giving her the
autonomy that the editor gets.   Note that also Mary is not a member of
this forum.

I think the problem is that we beleive (as the SC) that some of her
decisions are damaging the AGA as an organization, and we do not WANT to
give her that authority.  i.e. No confidence.  This is bad that we now
have an editor we do not trust to make her own decisions.

  - Erik

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Erik Olson
erik at thekrib dot com

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 00:47:31 -0500
From: Mary McCaw <marymccaw@mediaone.net>
To: Karen Randall <krandall@world.std.com>,
     David Lass <davidlass@villasunscape.com>, Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com>,
     Dorothy Reimer <dreimer@wwdc.com>
Subject: Fw: German tranlator for TAG; APD #871

I am forwarding you all the letter I sent to Neil.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mary McCaw" <marymccaw@mediaone.net>
To: "Neil Frank" <nfrank@mindspring.com>
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: German tranlator for TAG; APD #871


> > ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Neil Frank" <nfrank@mindspring.com>
> To: "Mary McCaw" <marymccaw@mediaone.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 6:54 AM
> Subject: Re: German tranlator for TAG; APD #871
>
> Neil,
>
> I have just gotten off the phone with Karen, and we have straightened
things
> out to my satisfaction.  What I have decided is that since Claus' and
Ole's
> article is a ground-breaking scientific study I am going to go ahead and
> publish it and will also publish other scientific type articles they send
me
> in the future.  But in terms of your every day article, I am not going to
> duplicate the very same article from another publication unless (a) it is
> directed toward a very different audience or (b) a year or more has
elapsed
> which would make it a reprint.
>
> The rest of the Standing Committee needs to know that I first communicated
> with you about Ole and Claus' article on March 1st and specifically asked
> for your feedback on March 2nd.  You choose not to respond in a timely
way.
> Karen tells me that you didn't even tell the SC that I had raised the
issue
> with you.
>
> I want you to know that in this situation I feel you have hung me out to
> dry.  The whole situation was totally unnecessary.  Had you responded in a
> timely way, I would have been spared the embarrassment.  I am tired of
your
> lack of  support.  Considering you took your time in getting back to me,
you
> have no right to second guess my decision.
>
> Here are my responses to specific points of your letter.
>
>
> > Mary,
> > I think it is unfortunate that AGA did not get an "exclusive" on
> Petersen's article  "Interactions between CO2 and light stimulate the
growth
> of aquatic plants,
> > but I think it is STILL VERY APPROPRIATE for you to publish it in TAG.
>
> I don't think you understand my position.  I was
> not upset that PAM published a story about Claus' and Ole's findings, but
I
> did object  that they sent both Dave and me the EXACT SAME article, and
> neither one of us had an inkling of what was going on.
>
> >I have discussed this with Karen and others, and we all agree. PAM's
> readership is small and there are many AGA members which do not get PAM.
>
> I wish you had not waited so long to give me your feedback.  Had I known
how
> you  felt, I probably would have responded differently.  When I asked for
> your feedback, and it was so late in coming, I figured I wasn't going to
get
> any, so I had better make a decision since I had kept Claus and Ole
waiting
> long enough.
>
> Also, you say that Paul has made some edits which should even make it
> better. If I were you, I would print it without any mention that it
already
> published in PAM. Make it seem that you were unaware that it was going  to
> be publshed elsewhere (actually the truth).
>
> If you look at other magazines you will see similar duplication. For
> example, Karen published an article about red plants in PAM and then a
very
> similar article appeared in AFM.
>
> I realize that there were two similar red plant articles and that there
> tends  to be some duplication in aquarium magazines.  As a matter of fact,
a
> lot of what Peter Bradley writes, he recycles from Practical Fishkeeping.
> But he gives me different articles in a different format, not the exact
same
> article  which   appears in PF.  I recognize that there are only so many
> things   you  can talk about, so there is bound to be some repetition.
>
> I also recognize that since English is not Claus' and Ole's native tongue,
I
> can 't have the same expectations of them which is one of the reasons why
I
> have reconsidered my decision.
>
> From now on, whenever there is a big decision to be made, I am going to
take
> my concerns directly to the SC so as to avoid any future problems.
>
> Mary
>
>
>


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