Re: PAM plan looking bad

["Karen Randall" <krandall@world.std.com>]

Last time I head, it was close to 100, but that was a while ago.

Karen

----- Original Message -----
From: "David VillaSunscape" <davidlass@villasunscape.com>
To: <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: PAM plan looking bad


> This is exactly what I was afraid of, and I am very glad that it has
> happened now rather than a year or so down the road with Dave/PAM where
AGA
> would have an "investment" to protect and would be tempted to bail him
out.
> I agree that we cannot double the cost of our membership just so folks get
a
> slick color magazine.
> I too will still plan on being at the Saturday morning meeting.
> BTW -- does anyone know how many attendees we are going to have at the
> convention this year?
> Ta Ta.
> David
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Erik Olson" <erik@thekrib.com>
> To: <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 4:02 PM
> Subject: PAM plan looking bad
>
>
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > Just a quick update.  Dave has come to the conclusion that PAM's
business
> > plan is inherently flawed and that if he doesn't jack up the prices and
> > circulation soon, there is no long-term viability for PAM.
> > Unfortunately, he has decided to do this particular analysis as part of
> > the PAM-AGA negotiation, and his current proposals all pretty much
center
> > on a $25 per year payment to PAM (aka $30 per year membership to AGA).
> >
> > I have stuck very strongly to the notion that I beleive AGA members will
> > not pay much more than about $20 per year (personally, I think PAM
> > subscribers won't pay much more than that either, so he's going to see a
> > sharp dropoff in his 450 members, if he hasn't already with his weird
> > 3-year membership requirements).  I have made it clear that we will have
> > no deal if we can't keep the membership costs low, and he's made it
clear
> > that he doesn't want to cut author salaries or printing costs.  So,
> > unfortunately, we are at an impasse.  I am still planning on talking to
> > him tonight, and I would still like you all to particupate in the
> > time-limited meeting on Saturday to at least discuss this with him, but
> > things seem pretty bleak right now.
> >
> >   - Erik
> >
> > --
> > Erik Olson
> > erik at thekrib dot com
> >
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