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Re: Re: Magazine sales (fwd)
I am leaning more towards Karen's "give it one shot on AGA's terms, and if
he says "no" forget him.
I think Erik is to be commended for having dealt with Dave to this point,
and I will, in fact, volunteer to continue the negotiation/end things with
Dave if that is what the SC wants. I've also been giving some thought to the
TAg problem, and as soon as Erik gets a final response from Mary (or tells
her that no response means we will assume she is resigning) I think I am
ready to make a motion.
Let me know what you want me to do, if anything.
David
----- Original Message -----
From: <nfrank@mindspring.com>
To: <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
Cc: <nfrank@mindspring.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 8:01 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Magazine sales (fwd)
> Erik, the summary is good. I did not see yours. I can modify my described
position (which is not the way I intended it to be interpreted) to David's.
If Karen can go along with any, then I suppose that the SC would be in
unison. I can understand why you do not want to continue negotiations. I
commend you for your endurance to this point. I volunteer (unless David,
who I think would be better would do it). I suggest that the we only acquire
no more than a reasonable number of PAMS in total (say 2000), that they
consist of as many SETS as possible,and that the remainder, if there are
any, be acquired for a reasonable "lowball" price (to be negotiated). If
there are any remaining PAMs beyond that, we negotiate their demise (i.e.
Dave keeps them with proviso that he not compete with AGA for their sales;
AGA gets them for long term storage and sale, if the price is right; etc).
In fact, if the membership exchange will end up costing so much, then we
might want to get the remaining!
> !
> issues for close to free -- to cost average down the unit price to a
level where we can reasonably expect to recoop our investment. Unless I am
missing something, this is not that dissimilar to Gomberg's proposal. In
fact, I never really saw that much divergence among all the discussions. If
we permanently pick up another 150 members, get our investment back in a few
years and make everyone happy, then this is win-win. N'est pas? Then there
is the issue of which AGA body can make this decision. Is the SC sufficient
or does it have to go to the MC, at least for political cover. Then, if Dave
does not agree, we walk.
> Neil
> aga-sc@thekrib.com wrote:
> > On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, Neil Frank wrote:
> > Is the "lack of convergence among" the SC or with Dave (or both :-)
When
> > convenient, you might briefly list the various positions to see if the
SC
> > would be willing to modify their current position.
>
> I will do so now, and this will be my last action as a negotiator with
> PAM:
>
> * David would like to offer 1-year subscriptions to AGA in exchange for
> back issue sales. David would also like to buy the rest of Dave's
> inventory at a lowball price.
>
> * Neil would like to offer 1-year subscriptions to the AGA, but NOT in
> exchange for anything. But he would like to find out how many back
> issues Dave has and if he would give us all of them and if Diana would
> sell them. But he needs to think about it more.
>
> * Karen would like to purchase some or all of his back stock just for the
> bookstore, but no more.
>
> Note that Dave has offered to do NONE of these options. His offer was a
> straight trade of subscriptions for back issues, which he will use to "pay
> off" his members instead of sending them back issues himself.
>
> Someone else will have to negotiate this. My goal was to see the AGA
> through the TAG problem, and PAM has now become a side issue. When I get
> back from vacation, I will concentrate on finding a replacement editor for
> TAG.
>
> - Erik
>
> --
> Erik Olson
> erik at thekrib dot com
>
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