Thanks David, I think what bothers me most is that both of the letters we've recieved from members have been simple, polite inquiries. They weren't even complaints. All these people needed was a polite explanation. Instead, Diana left them both with the impression that AGA was run by a group of bumbling idiots. >From what I've seen there is only one person who MAY not have received a copy of Erik's issue. (Doug Rellstab, who's name was forwarded to me by Jack) I have the box of left-over's from that issue in hand now, so anyone else who missed one can easily be handled now. The other inquiries were simply misunerstandings caused by the numbering change... something that we _are_ going to have to deal with. I now also have quite a few extras of the new issue, and I think these are great promotional items. If any of you want some let me know, and I'll send you out a handful. Finally, David, I checked with Step direct, and the the difference between the mailing in Feb, and the mailing in June was only about $20. (and a few more pieces were mailed) I think you were comparing the domestic number in Feb. with the domestic plus foreign number for June. If we feel that this rate is too high, I wouldn't be adverse to going back to bulk as long as we send them in envelopes. I personally feel that the periodical rate guidelines are too complicated for an organization like ours without one, central office. But that's a decision that everyone needs to make together. Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "David VillaSunscape" <davidlass@villasunscape.com> To: <aga-sc@thekrib.com>; "Jack O'Leary" <joleary@merrillinc.com> Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2002 10:33 AM Subject: Re: MISSING ISSUE jan/march > Hello All -- > Having been really swamped lately I have not been following everything too > carefully, so my perspective may be uninformed -- but -- that has never > stopped me in the past. > The primary thing we all should be aware of is that > THE CURRENT TAG ISSUE IS A TREMENDOUS TRIUMPH -- for AGA and for Karen. It > is beautiful, and is doing exactly what we were aiming for -- something much > higher than TAG had been and yet not as expensive as PAM was. > The fact that we have some folks complaining about the number of issues they > receive is, considering the numbers of people involved, not at all > disturbing. I think that we should simply respond to any individuals who > complain that they missed an issue that we will extend their subscription by > however many issues they think they are owed. > Stay the course, folks. We finally have a terrific, dedicated and organized > editor for TAG, we have just put out a fantastic issue of TAG, and we just > have to handle the detractors one by one as they pop up. It's too bad that > people only raise their voice when they are complaining, but keep their > silence when they are happy. Seems to me that there are lots more happy > folks than complainers. > David > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Karen Randall" <krandall@world.std.com> > To: "Jack O'Leary" <joleary@merrillinc.com>; "AGA Steering Committee" > <aga-sc@thekrib.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2002 9:54 AM > Subject: Fw: MISSING ISSUE jan/march > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > Erik is right, we need to do something about this. I think we need to > post > > something on the membership list, AND have a letter to the members in the > > next TAG. Diana's tone is really bugging me also. Here we are trying our > > best to make a good impression, this issue wasn't even very late, (we were > > late by about 2 weeks because we were waiting for much-needed advertisers) > > and she's making it sound like they're going to be luck if they ever get > > anything at all. > > > > As Erik said, it's not my fault or Cheryl's that the last editor just > > decided to stop publishing without notice. Nor is it my fault that the > last > > issue was dated as it was. There is absolutely no way that we can catch > up > > with the lost issues. Either in terms of finding that much material OR in > > terms of affording to print them in that short a period of time. > > > > I have read Diana's whining on the MCM and I have to tell you, I'm not > happy > > with it. I'm wondering whether we should have the MCM list at all if the > > only purpose is for people to take pot shots at those who are working > > hardest to improve the organization. > > > > The current TAG should be in people's hands now or shortly. We already > are > > working hard on the next issue that should be out in August (barring more > > advertiser delays) followed by the last issue for this year in November. > > Considering the track record of past editors, both AGA and PAM, I'm > feeling > > kind of picked on at the moment, considering we were starting from > scratch, > > trying to do something new, AND trying to get advertisers, I don't think > > being a couple of weeks later than originally planned is a very big deal. > > Except for holding for the ads, we were ready to go on schedule. > > > > Sorry for the vent. I kept my mouth shut over the Enron comments, (thanks > > to those of you who stood up for us) but this is too much. This guy > wasn't > > upset, he was rather up-beat. Diana had the opportunity to either simply > > explain the situation to him in a positive manner, or ask one of us to > > respond if she didn't want to deal with it herself. Instead, she took the > > opportunity to make us look bad. > > > > Karen > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: dwalstad@bellsouth.net > > To: Jack O'Leary ; M. Buffardi > > Cc: Karen Randall > > Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 8:42 PM > > Subject: Re: MISSING ISSUE jan/march > > > > > > Dear Michael, > > > > Sorry, but I don't think that there even was a Jan/March issue. In > any > > case, I don't have anything to send you. I've sent this letter to Jack > > O'Leary who's in charge of membership. I think the AGA plan is that > > everyone gets the issues owed them, but when they'll come out is not as > > certain. > > > > Diana Walstad > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: M. Buffardi > > To: dwalstad@bellsouth.net ; cheryl@rightstuffwebsites.com > > Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 12:00 PM > > Subject: MISSING ISSUE jan/march > > > > > > Please help or connect me with the right person. > > > > My subscription was change over from The Planted Aquarium. The first issue > > of the Aquatic Gardener I received was the July/Dec.issue. I just > received > > the April/June issue - therefore I didn't receive the Jan/March issue. > > Please send the missing issue to me as soon as you can. I really enjoy > your > > publication. > > > > PS please respond to this email so that I can know when the issue is sent > > out. > > > > Much thanks, > > > > > > Michael Buffardi > > 5 Meadow Ave > > Suffern, NY 10901 > > > > ------------------ > > To unsubscribe from this list, e-mail majordomo@thekrib.com > > with "unsubscribe aga-sc" in the body of the message. > > Old messages are available at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-sc > > When asked, log in as username is "aga-sc", and password "incorp". > > > > > > ------------------ > To unsubscribe from this list, e-mail majordomo@thekrib.com > with "unsubscribe aga-sc" in the body of the message. > Old messages are available at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-sc > When asked, log in as username is "aga-sc", and password "incorp". ------------------ To unsubscribe from this list, e-mail majordomo@thekrib.com with "unsubscribe aga-sc" in the body of the message. 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