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Re: Fw: AGA 2004
NEC keeps a calendar for our area. Clubs hold fast to their dates year
after year, because tehre aren't that many free weekends in the spring and
fall. No one wants either the summer or the dead of winter.<g>
Karen
----- Original Message -----
From: "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com>
To: <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: AGA 2004
> And getting farther away form T'day might help attendance
> too.
>
> Ghanzafar know sthe basic pint but I don't know how many
> specifics he knows that dates for.
>
> Isn't there an insurance company that puts out a calendar
> with all this info on it ? :-\
>
>
>
> --- Karen Randall <krandall@rdrcpa.biz> wrote:
> > The other thing he'll have to factor in is that if he's
> > hoping for drive-ins
> > from the NEC territory, he'd better check NEC dates and
> > schedule around
> > them. My guess is that except for the die-hard "plant
> > people" NEC folks
> > would close ranks and support the local event rather than
> > an AGA convention
> > still within driving distance but farther away. This is
> > especially relevant
> > because several of the AGA conventions have been in
> > direct competition with
> > the BAS annual auction. David and I have opted for AGA
> > anyway, but we're
> > BOD members.
> >
> > I don't know how much (if at all) Ghazanfar is to the
> > organized GENERAL
> > aquarium hobby.
> >
> > Karen
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com>
> > To: <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 3:16 PM
> > Subject: Re: Fw: AGA 2004
> >
> >
> > > Good point. Ghanzafar has probably done a calc like
> > that
> > > based on 2003 attendees. WE sent him city/state for
> > > registrants. Maybe we should ask for his numbers. ;-)
> > >
> > > On a related point, of the 108 paid registrants at
> > AGA2K3,
> > > 15% bought memberships with their registration. Others
> > > might have bought memberships separately. But the
> > > prepoderance of attendees were already members. Some
> > number
> > > of these sign-ups joined only to go to the convention.
> > So
> > > the number that signed up only to go the convention is
> > a
> > > small percentage. It would seem then that the market
> > for
> > > the the 2003 convention was predominantly members of
> > AGA.
> > >
> > > But, I expect Ghanzafar to be targeting a different
> > > audience, one which comprises AGA *plus* all the
> > b'ginners,
> > > or something like that. Depending on his strategy, the
> > > b'ginners might be a big share. I wonder if b'ginners
> > are
> > > as likely to fly to a convention?
> > >
> > >
> > > sh
> > > --- David Lass <davidlass@villasunscape.com> wrote:
> > > > Just out of curiosity (actually it would be good to
> > know)
> > > > can we query the
> > > > database to find out how many AGA members there are
> > in,
> > > > say, DC, MD, PA, NJ
> > > > etc.? That might give us a handle on what we could
> > expect
> > > > for a DC/Baltimore
> > > > convention, with Amano.
> > > > David
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Erik Olson" <erik@thekrib.com>
> > > > To: "AGA Steering Committee" <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 11:56 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: Fw: AGA 2004
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > That's what worries me. One of the reasons Texas
> > > > worked so well was that
> > > > > they didn't rely on having 110 people. They made
> > it
> > > > break even
> > > > > (theoretically, at least) with a lot fewer.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ghazanfar is very bright, but there are some things
> > > > that cannot be
> > > > > predicted. We don't really know how much of a draw
> > the
> > > > Amano name
> > > > > actually is. We know it's good, but how good?
> > Enough
> > > > to guarantee 200
> > > > > people? The number of people will also be affected
> > by
> > > > the cost of the
> > > > > hotel and plane fare.
> > > > >
> > > > > OK, now I write to James, and try to get all these
> > > > issues off the plate so
> > > > > I can do baby prep things today...
> > > > >
> > > > > - Erik
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, 6 Dec 2003, Karen Randall wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Ghazanfar Khan Ghori" <ghori@ghori.net>
> > > > > > To: <karenran@verizon.net>
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 8:23 AM
> > > > > > Subject: RE: AGA 2004
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Karen,
> > > > > > > I hope you have a speedy recovery following
> > your
> > > > surgery.
> > > > > > > The tricky part with the bid proess is that a
> > lot
> > > > depends
> > > > > > > on how large an audience we will attract. The
> > > > venue, events
> > > > > > > nad registration costs all depends on how many
> > > > people
> > > > > > > we hope will attend. That's directly tied in
> > with
> > > > > > > the location (which we have) and the speaker
> > line
> > > > up.
> > > > > > > If Mr. Amano accepts our invitation, we can
> > plan
> > > > for a
> > > > > > > larger number of attendees. However, I agree,
> > if we
> > > > > > > invite Mr. Amano - it should be regardless of
> > > > venue.
> > > > > > > I hope he accepts the invite! Please let me
> > know if
> > > > there's
> > > > > > > anything we can do.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -
> > > > > > > Ghazanfar Khan Ghori
> > > > > > > www.aquaticscape.com
> > > > > > > www.desicookbook.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: karenran@verizon.net
> > > > [mailto:karenran@verizon.net]
> > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 12:46 PM
> > > > > > > > To: Ghazanfar Khan Ghori
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: AGA 2004
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Ghazanfar,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm going to try this one more time.(I've
> > typed 2
> > > > other
> > > > > > > > resonses to you which the computer has eaten)
> > I
> > > > am typing on
> > > > > > > > a laptop in bed following surgery, which is
> > why I
> > > > didn't
> > > > > > > > respond before. It is also the reason for
> > the
> > > > different
> > > > > > > > e-mail address. The rdrcpa address is a
> > > > sub-account of this
> > > > > > > > one, but the one I use most of the time. I
> > can't
> > > > get to that
> > > > > > > > account from this machine though.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'd be happy to contact Mr. Amano, but I want
> > to
> > > > talk to the
> > > > > > > > BOD first. I don't think it would be polite
> > to
> > > > invite him
> > > > > > > > only if the convention is held in a specific
> > > > venue, so I want
> > > > > > > > to be sure that if we invite him, the
> > invitation
> > > > stands no
> > > > > > > > matter where it ends up. (though, personally,
> > I'm
> > > > hoping for DC!)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Glad to hear your plants are doing well, most
> > of
> > > > mine are
> > > > > > > > too, though as with your, some were in tough
> > > > shape to begin with!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Karen
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > From: "Ghazanfar Khan Ghori"
> > <ghori@ghori.net>
> > > > > > > > > Date: 2003/11/28 Fri PM 11:17:03 CST
> > > > > > > > > To: <karenran@verizon.net>
> > > > > > > > > Subject: AGA 2004
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Karen, I emailed you last week regarding
> > AAG
> > > > 2004 and the
> > > > > > > > > possibility of having Mr. Amano as a key
> > > > speaker. I didn't
> > > > > > > > > hear back from you, but the email address
> > that
> > > > I sent it to (got
> > > > > > > > > it off the AGA website) was different from
> > this
> > > > one.
> > > > > > > > I'm assuming
> > > > > > > > > you didn't get the email?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -
> > > > > > > > > Ghazanfar Khan Ghori
> > > > > > > > > www.aquaticscape.com
> > > > > > > > > www.desicookbook.com
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
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