And getting farther away form T'day might help attendance too. Ghanzafar know sthe basic pint but I don't know how many specifics he knows that dates for. Isn't there an insurance company that puts out a calendar with all this info on it ? :-\ --- Karen Randall <krandall@rdrcpa.biz> wrote: > The other thing he'll have to factor in is that if he's > hoping for drive-ins > from the NEC territory, he'd better check NEC dates and > schedule around > them. My guess is that except for the die-hard "plant > people" NEC folks > would close ranks and support the local event rather than > an AGA convention > still within driving distance but farther away. This is > especially relevant > because several of the AGA conventions have been in > direct competition with > the BAS annual auction. David and I have opted for AGA > anyway, but we're > BOD members. > > I don't know how much (if at all) Ghazanfar is to the > organized GENERAL > aquarium hobby. > > Karen > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com> > To: <aga-sc@thekrib.com> > Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 3:16 PM > Subject: Re: Fw: AGA 2004 > > > > Good point. Ghanzafar has probably done a calc like > that > > based on 2003 attendees. WE sent him city/state for > > registrants. Maybe we should ask for his numbers. ;-) > > > > On a related point, of the 108 paid registrants at > AGA2K3, > > 15% bought memberships with their registration. Others > > might have bought memberships separately. But the > > prepoderance of attendees were already members. Some > number > > of these sign-ups joined only to go to the convention. > So > > the number that signed up only to go the convention is > a > > small percentage. It would seem then that the market > for > > the the 2003 convention was predominantly members of > AGA. > > > > But, I expect Ghanzafar to be targeting a different > > audience, one which comprises AGA *plus* all the > b'ginners, > > or something like that. Depending on his strategy, the > > b'ginners might be a big share. I wonder if b'ginners > are > > as likely to fly to a convention? > > > > > > sh > > --- David Lass <davidlass@villasunscape.com> wrote: > > > Just out of curiosity (actually it would be good to > know) > > > can we query the > > > database to find out how many AGA members there are > in, > > > say, DC, MD, PA, NJ > > > etc.? That might give us a handle on what we could > expect > > > for a DC/Baltimore > > > convention, with Amano. > > > David > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Erik Olson" <erik@thekrib.com> > > > To: "AGA Steering Committee" <aga-sc@thekrib.com> > > > Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 11:56 AM > > > Subject: Re: Fw: AGA 2004 > > > > > > > > > > That's what worries me. One of the reasons Texas > > > worked so well was that > > > > they didn't rely on having 110 people. They made > it > > > break even > > > > (theoretically, at least) with a lot fewer. > > > > > > > > Ghazanfar is very bright, but there are some things > > > that cannot be > > > > predicted. We don't really know how much of a draw > the > > > Amano name > > > > actually is. We know it's good, but how good? > Enough > > > to guarantee 200 > > > > people? The number of people will also be affected > by > > > the cost of the > > > > hotel and plane fare. > > > > > > > > OK, now I write to James, and try to get all these > > > issues off the plate so > > > > I can do baby prep things today... > > > > > > > > - Erik > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 6 Dec 2003, Karen Randall wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Ghazanfar Khan Ghori" <ghori@ghori.net> > > > > > To: <karenran@verizon.net> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 8:23 AM > > > > > Subject: RE: AGA 2004 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Karen, > > > > > > I hope you have a speedy recovery following > your > > > surgery. > > > > > > The tricky part with the bid proess is that a > lot > > > depends > > > > > > on how large an audience we will attract. The > > > venue, events > > > > > > nad registration costs all depends on how many > > > people > > > > > > we hope will attend. That's directly tied in > with > > > > > > the location (which we have) and the speaker > line > > > up. > > > > > > If Mr. Amano accepts our invitation, we can > plan > > > for a > > > > > > larger number of attendees. However, I agree, > if we > > > > > > invite Mr. Amano - it should be regardless of > > > venue. > > > > > > I hope he accepts the invite! Please let me > know if > > > there's > > > > > > anything we can do. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > Ghazanfar Khan Ghori > > > > > > www.aquaticscape.com > > > > > > www.desicookbook.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: karenran@verizon.net > > > [mailto:karenran@verizon.net] > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 12:46 PM > > > > > > > To: Ghazanfar Khan Ghori > > > > > > > Subject: Re: AGA 2004 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Ghazanfar, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm going to try this one more time.(I've > typed 2 > > > other > > > > > > > resonses to you which the computer has eaten) > I > > > am typing on > > > > > > > a laptop in bed following surgery, which is > why I > > > didn't > > > > > > > respond before. It is also the reason for > the > > > different > > > > > > > e-mail address. The rdrcpa address is a > > > sub-account of this > > > > > > > one, but the one I use most of the time. I > can't > > > get to that > > > > > > > account from this machine though. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'd be happy to contact Mr. Amano, but I want > to > > > talk to the > > > > > > > BOD first. I don't think it would be polite > to > > > invite him > > > > > > > only if the convention is held in a specific > > > venue, so I want > > > > > > > to be sure that if we invite him, the > invitation > > > stands no > > > > > > > matter where it ends up. (though, personally, > I'm > > > hoping for DC!) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Glad to hear your plants are doing well, most > of > > > mine are > > > > > > > too, though as with your, some were in tough > > > shape to begin with! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Karen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Ghazanfar Khan Ghori" > <ghori@ghori.net> > > > > > > > > Date: 2003/11/28 Fri PM 11:17:03 CST > > > > > > > > To: <karenran@verizon.net> > > > > > > > > Subject: AGA 2004 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Karen, I emailed you last week regarding > AAG > > > 2004 and the > > > > > > > > possibility of having Mr. Amano as a key > > > speaker. I didn't > > > > > > > > hear back from you, but the email address > that > > > I sent it to (got > > > > > > > > it off the AGA website) was different from > this > > > one. > > > > > > > I'm assuming > > > > > > > > you didn't get the email? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > Ghazanfar Khan Ghori > > > > > > > > www.aquaticscape.com > > > > > > > > www.desicookbook.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------ > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, e-mail > > > majordomo@thekrib.com > > > > > with "unsubscribe aga-sc" in the body of the > > > message. > > > > > Old messages are available at > > > http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-sc > > > > > When asked, log in as username is "aga-sc", and > > > password "incorp". > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Erik Olson > > > > erik at thekrib dot com > > > > > > > > ------------------ > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, e-mail > > > majordomo@thekrib.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aga-sc" in the body of the > message. > > > > Old messages are available at > > > http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-sc > > > > When asked, log in as username is "aga-sc", and > > > password "incorp". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------ > > > To unsubscribe from this list, e-mail > > > majordomo@thekrib.com > > > with "unsubscribe aga-sc" in the body of the > message. > > > Old messages are available at > > > http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-sc > > > When asked, log in as username is "aga-sc", and > > > password "incorp". > > > > > > > > > ===== > > S. 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