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Re: Fw: AGA 2004



And getting farther away form T'day might help attendance
too.

Ghanzafar know sthe basic pint but I don't know how many
specifics he knows that dates for. 

Isn't there an insurance company that puts out a calendar
with all this info on it ? :-\



--- Karen Randall <krandall@rdrcpa.biz> wrote:
> The other thing he'll have to factor in is that if he's
> hoping for drive-ins
> from the NEC territory, he'd better check NEC dates and
> schedule around
> them.  My guess is that except for the die-hard "plant
> people" NEC folks
> would close ranks and support the local event rather than
> an AGA convention
> still within driving distance but farther away.  This is
> especially relevant
> because several of the AGA conventions have been in
> direct competition with
> the BAS annual auction.  David and I have opted for AGA
> anyway, but we're
> BOD members.
> 
> I don't know how much (if at all) Ghazanfar is to the
> organized GENERAL
> aquarium hobby.
> 
> Karen
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com>
> To: <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 3:16 PM
> Subject: Re: Fw: AGA 2004
> 
> 
> > Good point. Ghanzafar has probably done a calc like
> that
> > based on 2003 attendees. WE sent him city/state for
> > registrants. Maybe we should ask for his numbers. ;-)
> >
> > On a related point, of the 108 paid registrants at
> AGA2K3,
> > 15% bought memberships with their registration. Others
> > might have bought memberships separately. But the
> > prepoderance of attendees were already members. Some
> number
> > of these sign-ups joined only to go to the convention.
> So
> > the number that signed up only to go the convention is
> a
> > small percentage. It would seem then that the market
> for
> > the the 2003 convention was predominantly members of
> AGA.
> >
> > But, I expect Ghanzafar to be targeting a different
> > audience, one which comprises AGA *plus* all the
> b'ginners,
> > or something like that. Depending on his strategy, the
> > b'ginners might be a big share. I wonder if b'ginners
> are
> > as likely to fly to a convention?
> >
> >
> > sh
> > --- David Lass <davidlass@villasunscape.com> wrote:
> > > Just out of curiosity (actually it would be good to
> know)
> > > can we query the
> > > database to find out how many AGA members there are
> in,
> > > say, DC, MD, PA, NJ
> > > etc.? That might give us a handle on what we could
> expect
> > > for a DC/Baltimore
> > > convention, with Amano.
> > > David
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Erik Olson" <erik@thekrib.com>
> > > To: "AGA Steering Committee" <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
> > > Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 11:56 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Fw: AGA 2004
> > >
> > >
> > > > That's what worries me.  One of the reasons Texas
> > > worked so well was that
> > > > they didn't rely on having 110 people.  They made
> it
> > > break even
> > > > (theoretically, at least) with a lot fewer.
> > > >
> > > > Ghazanfar is very bright, but there are some things
> > > that cannot be
> > > > predicted.  We don't really know how much of a draw
> the
> > > Amano name
> > > > actually is.  We know it's good, but how good? 
> Enough
> > > to guarantee 200
> > > > people?  The number of people will also be affected
> by
> > > the cost of the
> > > > hotel and plane fare.
> > > >
> > > > OK, now I write to James, and try to get all these
> > > issues off the plate so
> > > > I can do baby prep things today...
> > > >
> > > >   - Erik
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, 6 Dec 2003, Karen Randall wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > > From: "Ghazanfar Khan Ghori" <ghori@ghori.net>
> > > > > To: <karenran@verizon.net>
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 8:23 AM
> > > > > Subject: RE: AGA 2004
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Karen,
> > > > > > I hope you have a speedy recovery following
> your
> > > surgery.
> > > > > > The tricky part with the bid proess is that a
> lot
> > > depends
> > > > > > on how large an audience we will attract. The
> > > venue, events
> > > > > > nad registration costs all depends on how many
> > > people
> > > > > > we hope will attend. That's directly tied in
> with
> > > > > > the location (which we have) and the speaker
> line
> > > up.
> > > > > > If Mr. Amano accepts our invitation, we can
> plan
> > > for a
> > > > > > larger number of attendees. However, I agree,
> if we
> > > > > > invite Mr. Amano - it should be regardless of
> > > venue.
> > > > > > I hope he accepts the invite! Please let me
> know if
> > > there's
> > > > > > anything we can do.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -
> > > > > > Ghazanfar Khan Ghori
> > > > > > www.aquaticscape.com
> > > > > > www.desicookbook.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: karenran@verizon.net
> > > [mailto:karenran@verizon.net]
> > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 12:46 PM
> > > > > > > To: Ghazanfar Khan Ghori
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: AGA 2004
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Ghazanfar,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm going to try this one more time.(I've
> typed 2
> > > other
> > > > > > > resonses to you which the computer has eaten)
>  I
> > > am typing on
> > > > > > > a laptop in bed following surgery, which is
> why I
> > > didn't
> > > > > > > respond before.  It is also the reason for
> the
> > > different
> > > > > > > e-mail address.  The rdrcpa address is a
> > > sub-account of this
> > > > > > > one, but the one I use most of the time.  I
> can't
> > > get to that
> > > > > > > account from this machine though.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'd be happy to contact Mr. Amano, but I want
> to
> > > talk to the
> > > > > > > BOD first.  I don't think it would be polite
> to
> > > invite him
> > > > > > > only if the convention is held in a specific
> > > venue, so I want
> > > > > > > to be sure that if we invite him, the
> invitation
> > > stands no
> > > > > > > matter where it ends up. (though, personally,
> I'm
> > > hoping for DC!)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Glad to hear your plants are doing well, most
> of
> > > mine are
> > > > > > > too, though as with your, some were in tough
> > > shape to begin with!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Karen
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > From: "Ghazanfar Khan Ghori"
> <ghori@ghori.net>
> > > > > > > > Date: 2003/11/28 Fri PM 11:17:03 CST
> > > > > > > > To: <karenran@verizon.net>
> > > > > > > > Subject: AGA 2004
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Karen, I emailed you last week regarding
> AAG
> > > 2004 and the
> > > > > > > > possibility of having Mr. Amano as a key
> > > speaker. I didn't
> > > > > > > > hear back from you, but the email address
> that
> > > I sent it to (got
> > > > > > > > it off the AGA website) was different from
> this
> > > one.
> > > > > > > I'm assuming
> > > > > > > > you didn't get the email?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -
> > > > > > > > Ghazanfar Khan Ghori
> > > > > > > > www.aquaticscape.com
> > > > > > > > www.desicookbook.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > > -- 
> > > > Erik Olson
> > > > erik at thekrib dot com
> > > >
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