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Re: GWAPA Proposal rough draft2 (fwd)
I agree with much of what Kathy has said. Other thoughts:
1. I don't think that they would need to pay for both Tomoko AND Amano's
person, though. I suspect that Amano will be comfortable enough with Tomoko
after Tennessee and the fact that she translates ALL his articles for us
that he won't feel the need for someone else. He paid for Nozomi to come
the last time. I think if he wants him to come, he'd probably willing to
bring him on his own dime again.
2. As far as Tomoko rooming with me, that is dependent on whether Dorothy
is coming or not. Dorothy is my "regular roomie". I set up to share with
Christel this year first because at that point it didn't look like we had
talked Dorothy into coming, and second, I wanted to make sure that Christel
had a really good time, and the opportunity to get out collecting. I like
Tomoko a lot, and would have no problem sharing a room with her, but Dorothy
comes first!<g> Plus, for Amano to work, I think we are all in agreement
that Tomoko makes or breaks it. I think she deserves a room of her own for
that.
I agree with Kathy that having Amano come and NOT having him set up a tank
would be a shame, and would probably be a disappointment to people who heard
the rave reviews about it from Chattanooga.
The numbers look pretty good to me too, but I wasn't that involved with that
part in the past, so others will ahve to make the final call on that piece.
Karen
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kathy Olson" <kathy@thekrib.com>
To: <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 12:26 AM
Subject: Re: GWAPA Proposal rough draft2 (fwd)
>
> Hi, (Scott...Edit this email, if forwarded, I was pretty frank in places)
>
> I just did a quick look. Things that jump out at me...I like the speaker
> line-up. Not sure on the inner bay one though...pretty localized, and
> they have great workshop ideas...not sure they can fit them all in. In
> fact hate to say it but that sounds more like a local speaker topic to
> me...now I may be a party pooper, but how would I apply this to MY TANKS.
> I would much rather see some of the things below. Perhaps this is
> something that was discussed on the lists. Perhaps this could be a
> workshop vs a main talk.
>
> I would REALLY LOVE to see AMANO set up a TANK. DO A TANK AQUASCAPING AS
> he did in Tennessee....that was just awesome. Then I would like to see
> the tank he sets up AUCTIONED!!! Owning an amano tank would just be too
> cool. I think that would be a big thing. If Ganzafar hasn't seen the
> TENN workshop where Amano did this, it is well worth it. Watching him set
> up a tank, brought home those techniques much more than a talk would.
> PLEASE, PLEASE, ask them to do this if they get amano.
>
> If they do get AMANO, TOMOKO SCHUM is a MUST!!! She really does a better
> job interpreting, and carry's the humor as well. His translator still has
> to be there. It means paying for her room etc, and if necessary airfare
> it is WELL WORTH it. I can't remember if she shared a room with Karen or
> not, but if willing to do that, it can cut costs.
>
> Not sure on the cash bar, don't you have to guarantee so much in sales for
> that...seems like a way to loose money.
>
> Not sure you have to have a silent auction too....I would leave that to
> people that went this year, not sure how that worked.
>
> Hotel costs more, but I think it is a good price for Baltimore. I can't
> remember the ACA's cap, but I think it was 89 or so. That being said, I
> wouldn't hesitate to pay it to have a hotel with a shuttle!
>
> The banquet numbers look OPTIMISTIC, how many went to the banquet in TX,
> what fraction of the total. Amano would be a big banquet draw, but not
> sure he could do a main talk/workshop and banquet. So perhaps Jan, or
> perhaps Amano, who knows, more thoughts. But still, the numbers look high
> to me.
>
> Also need a budget for speaker gifts, I know Karen jumped in and helped a
> lot on this one. But something nice for Amano if here.
>
> Registration costs look REALLY good, I like those numbers.
>
> On the field trip at $20, I wouldn't expect a free lunch, so if they have
> to turn people loose for lunch that is okay, but if they get someone to
> cover it that is great.
>
> Make sure they know EVERY DONATION HAS TO GET A THANK YOU, or else of
> course the donor may not ever do it again!
>
> Perhaps is AMANO did a tank KIM BRYANT would donate lights, then we would
> need to give him program credit. He usually runs things pretty close and
> can't afford to advertise, but supports the AGA in lots of ways. I would
> like to see that rewarded.
>
> Otherwise, like the topics, like the workshop ideas (which maybe shifed
> around with speaker ideas). Looks aggressive, but I would like to see a
> conference within driving range for folks and thing this is a good bet.
>
> Really curious what Larry and Scott have to say.
>
> Kathy
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, 28 Dec 2003, Erik Olson wrote:
>
> > OK, so my first impressions are that this is a good start. It sounds
> > doable. And if Larry's really on board to help with hotels (and you
Scott
> > with budget in general), there's a certain amount of checks and
balances.
> >
> > * I like that they have "themes" in mind already, as opposed to it
> > being "just a convention".
> >
> > * Interesting dual-pronged approach of "The Crypt" and
> > "Aquascaping". Not sure if that's good (choice) or bad (too much).
> >
> > * I guess I'd like to see some worse-case scenarios (notice I
> > didn't say "worst"... I just want to see something a little less
> > optimistic than this year's baseline!).
> >
> > * Guess we'll have to talk on the aquascaping contest stuff. I
> > like the idea of integrating it better with the convention -- follows
what
> > I've been gradually building on the last 3 years. And if there's
someone
> > in particular who's got the interest, then I should bring them in as we
> > start opening the contest for business next year. But if the entries
are
> > like previous years, most of the entries would positively SUCK if
enlarged
> > to 8x10. A few would look nice, but most probably wouldn't. Maybe
> > instead there could be some computer displays rotating or per-category?
> > Inkjet-printed prints? 5x7's? Foam-core mounted?
> >
> > * Didn't see anything on A/V expenses, but I suppose that would be
> > getting ahead of ourselves... (did I mention I bought a mixing console
for
> > Christmas? My last pre-dadhood stupid purchase.)
> >
> > Scott, do these numbers look good to you so far?
> >
> > - Erik
> >
> > On Sun, 28 Dec 2003, Erik Olson wrote:
> >
> > > Find the attached draft Scott refers to, at
> > >
> > > http://test.thekrib.com/GWAPA-Proposal-rough-draft2.doc
> > >
> > > (it's too big to attach)
> > >
> > > - Erik
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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