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Re: GWAPA Proposal rough draft2 (fwd)
Hey, sorry to offer to have Tomoko room with you, for some reason I
thought she did in Tenn, now I remember it was Dorothy! I agree, she
deserves her own room.
K
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003, Karen Randall wrote:
> I agree with much of what Kathy has said. Other thoughts:
>
> 1. I don't think that they would need to pay for both Tomoko AND Amano's
> person, though. I suspect that Amano will be comfortable enough with Tomoko
> after Tennessee and the fact that she translates ALL his articles for us
> that he won't feel the need for someone else. He paid for Nozomi to come
> the last time. I think if he wants him to come, he'd probably willing to
> bring him on his own dime again.
>
> 2. As far as Tomoko rooming with me, that is dependent on whether Dorothy
> is coming or not. Dorothy is my "regular roomie". I set up to share with
> Christel this year first because at that point it didn't look like we had
> talked Dorothy into coming, and second, I wanted to make sure that Christel
> had a really good time, and the opportunity to get out collecting. I like
> Tomoko a lot, and would have no problem sharing a room with her, but Dorothy
> comes first!<g> Plus, for Amano to work, I think we are all in agreement
> that Tomoko makes or breaks it. I think she deserves a room of her own for
> that.
>
> I agree with Kathy that having Amano come and NOT having him set up a tank
> would be a shame, and would probably be a disappointment to people who heard
> the rave reviews about it from Chattanooga.
>
> The numbers look pretty good to me too, but I wasn't that involved with that
> part in the past, so others will ahve to make the final call on that piece.
>
> Karen
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kathy Olson" <kathy@thekrib.com>
> To: <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 12:26 AM
> Subject: Re: GWAPA Proposal rough draft2 (fwd)
>
>
> >
> > Hi, (Scott...Edit this email, if forwarded, I was pretty frank in places)
> >
> > I just did a quick look. Things that jump out at me...I like the speaker
> > line-up. Not sure on the inner bay one though...pretty localized, and
> > they have great workshop ideas...not sure they can fit them all in. In
> > fact hate to say it but that sounds more like a local speaker topic to
> > me...now I may be a party pooper, but how would I apply this to MY TANKS.
> > I would much rather see some of the things below. Perhaps this is
> > something that was discussed on the lists. Perhaps this could be a
> > workshop vs a main talk.
> >
> > I would REALLY LOVE to see AMANO set up a TANK. DO A TANK AQUASCAPING AS
> > he did in Tennessee....that was just awesome. Then I would like to see
> > the tank he sets up AUCTIONED!!! Owning an amano tank would just be too
> > cool. I think that would be a big thing. If Ganzafar hasn't seen the
> > TENN workshop where Amano did this, it is well worth it. Watching him set
> > up a tank, brought home those techniques much more than a talk would.
> > PLEASE, PLEASE, ask them to do this if they get amano.
> >
> > If they do get AMANO, TOMOKO SCHUM is a MUST!!! She really does a better
> > job interpreting, and carry's the humor as well. His translator still has
> > to be there. It means paying for her room etc, and if necessary airfare
> > it is WELL WORTH it. I can't remember if she shared a room with Karen or
> > not, but if willing to do that, it can cut costs.
> >
> > Not sure on the cash bar, don't you have to guarantee so much in sales for
> > that...seems like a way to loose money.
> >
> > Not sure you have to have a silent auction too....I would leave that to
> > people that went this year, not sure how that worked.
> >
> > Hotel costs more, but I think it is a good price for Baltimore. I can't
> > remember the ACA's cap, but I think it was 89 or so. That being said, I
> > wouldn't hesitate to pay it to have a hotel with a shuttle!
> >
> > The banquet numbers look OPTIMISTIC, how many went to the banquet in TX,
> > what fraction of the total. Amano would be a big banquet draw, but not
> > sure he could do a main talk/workshop and banquet. So perhaps Jan, or
> > perhaps Amano, who knows, more thoughts. But still, the numbers look high
> > to me.
> >
> > Also need a budget for speaker gifts, I know Karen jumped in and helped a
> > lot on this one. But something nice for Amano if here.
> >
> > Registration costs look REALLY good, I like those numbers.
> >
> > On the field trip at $20, I wouldn't expect a free lunch, so if they have
> > to turn people loose for lunch that is okay, but if they get someone to
> > cover it that is great.
> >
> > Make sure they know EVERY DONATION HAS TO GET A THANK YOU, or else of
> > course the donor may not ever do it again!
> >
> > Perhaps is AMANO did a tank KIM BRYANT would donate lights, then we would
> > need to give him program credit. He usually runs things pretty close and
> > can't afford to advertise, but supports the AGA in lots of ways. I would
> > like to see that rewarded.
> >
> > Otherwise, like the topics, like the workshop ideas (which maybe shifed
> > around with speaker ideas). Looks aggressive, but I would like to see a
> > conference within driving range for folks and thing this is a good bet.
> >
> > Really curious what Larry and Scott have to say.
> >
> > Kathy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 28 Dec 2003, Erik Olson wrote:
> >
> > > OK, so my first impressions are that this is a good start. It sounds
> > > doable. And if Larry's really on board to help with hotels (and you
> Scott
> > > with budget in general), there's a certain amount of checks and
> balances.
> > >
> > > * I like that they have "themes" in mind already, as opposed to it
> > > being "just a convention".
> > >
> > > * Interesting dual-pronged approach of "The Crypt" and
> > > "Aquascaping". Not sure if that's good (choice) or bad (too much).
> > >
> > > * I guess I'd like to see some worse-case scenarios (notice I
> > > didn't say "worst"... I just want to see something a little less
> > > optimistic than this year's baseline!).
> > >
> > > * Guess we'll have to talk on the aquascaping contest stuff. I
> > > like the idea of integrating it better with the convention -- follows
> what
> > > I've been gradually building on the last 3 years. And if there's
> someone
> > > in particular who's got the interest, then I should bring them in as we
> > > start opening the contest for business next year. But if the entries
> are
> > > like previous years, most of the entries would positively SUCK if
> enlarged
> > > to 8x10. A few would look nice, but most probably wouldn't. Maybe
> > > instead there could be some computer displays rotating or per-category?
> > > Inkjet-printed prints? 5x7's? Foam-core mounted?
> > >
> > > * Didn't see anything on A/V expenses, but I suppose that would be
> > > getting ahead of ourselves... (did I mention I bought a mixing console
> for
> > > Christmas? My last pre-dadhood stupid purchase.)
> > >
> > > Scott, do these numbers look good to you so far?
> > >
> > > - Erik
> > >
> > > On Sun, 28 Dec 2003, Erik Olson wrote:
> > >
> > > > Find the attached draft Scott refers to, at
> > > >
> > > > http://test.thekrib.com/GWAPA-Proposal-rough-draft2.doc
> > > >
> > > > (it's too big to attach)
> > > >
> > > > - Erik
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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